J-20... The New Generation Fighter


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Delbert

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Re: New Generation Fighter

Thanks..

I thought there is really a prototype already about the new generation PLAAF fighter.
 

Deino

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Re: New Generation Fighter

This is my first post forgive me for the spelling



true the fist picture is a Raptor but the second pic. is actually a wooden mock up of possible J-XX. I have read an article about China's 5th generation fighter and the same pic. was used, I think I read it on 'Combat aircraft' but not quite sure.


Sorry, but thet's definitly no wooden mock-up ... it has been discussed here and in other forums so often ... just a very nice CG !

The article You mention was a Western Military magazine (forgot the title) and they just made a mistake.

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Bltizo

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Sorry, but thet's definitly no wooden mock-up ... it has been discussed here and in other forums so often ... just a very nice CG !

The article You mention was a Western Military magazine (forgot the title) and they just made a mistake.

Deino
Yeah I'm pretty sure that the PLAAF won't just leak a picture like that out (it's about half a decade old now that one..).

Of course, we still hope that it may have been a leaked picture. Looks a really good CG.


PS: that video has some comments with nearly 500 approval ratings...
 

mzyw

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Thanks for point out my mistake.

Personally I believe the progress of the 5th gen. fighter program is determined by the progress made in the development of high performance aero engine. Because among all the areas in Chinese aviation industry this is the weakest.
 

challenge

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Thanks for point out my mistake.

Personally I believe the progress of the 5th gen. fighter program is determined by the progress made in the development of high performance aero engine. Because among all the areas in Chinese aviation industry this is the weakest.
about 5 years ago <Chinese government enact a law to persecute anyone who leak or post any classified material in the web site.
 

victtodd

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about 5 years ago <Chinese government enact a law to persecute anyone who leak or post any classified material in the web site.
Even in China, those who leak or post any classified material in the web site shall be held accountable and prosecuted, not necessarily persecuted.
 

FriedRiceNSpice

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Even in China, those who leak or post any classified material in the web site shall be held accountable and prosecuted, not necessarily persecuted.
I'm sure that applies to any nation around the world. I think Challenge meant to say prosecuted.
 

SampanViking

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Re: New Generation Fighter

I seriously doubt if the next generation fighter project (or even Carrier Production) is a top priority for PLA strategists for two main reasons.

1) As mentioned by Crobato earlier, the downturn and budget constraints on all nations with cutting edge military's are going to be so severe for the forseeable future, that nobody is going to be spending huge sums on these aircraft.

2) The PLAAF's main concern can only be replacing all the obsolete J7 and J8 variants remaining on its inventory with something more capable, but cheap and mass producible very quickly, which suggest J10s or J11 production stretching at full speed well into the foreseeable future.

The same philosophy is visible in the PLAN where again large inventories of obsolete shipping still exists. Hence we see rapid building of the new Type 022 FAC to replace the old WW2 style torpedo boats and missile corvettes, plus serial production of the Type 54a Frigate to replace the older variant Type 53's. These are all smaller ships (not even a new Destroyer to replace the old Luda's yet) and so shows where the current modernisation program currently is. It also lends weight to the view I favour, that a large number of small, fast missile boats are deemed strategically more advantageous than a few expensive leviathans.
 

the spectator

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I seriously doubt if the next generation fighter project (or even Carrier Production) is a top priority for PLA strategists for two main reasons.

1) As mentioned by Crobato earlier, the downturn and budget constraints on all nations with cutting edge military's are going to be so severe for the forseeable future, that nobody is going to be spending huge sums on these aircraft.

2) The PLAAF's main concern can only be replacing all the obsolete J7 and J8 variants remaining on its inventory with something more capable, but cheap and mass producible very quickly, which suggest J10s or J11 production stretching at full speed well into the foreseeable future.

The same philosophy is visible in the PLAN where again large inventories of obsolete shipping still exists. Hence we see rapid building of the new Type 022 FAC to replace the old WW2 style torpedo boats and missile corvettes, plus serial production of the Type 54a Frigate to replace the older variant Type 53's. These are all smaller ships (not even a new Destroyer to replace the old Luda's yet) and so shows where the current modernisation program currently is. It also lends weight to the view I favour, that a large number of small, fast missile boats are deemed strategically more advantageous than a few expensive leviathans.
I disagree with this assessment. I think the strategy that China employs is producing small numbers of newly certified aircrafts, tanks and ships just to keep the production line from closing down while continuing the improvements and research on new and upcoming technology.

This is evident in the small batches of new aircraft, tanks and ships being produced.

The idea is to produce new weapon systems, trying and evaluating it on real- time conditions and then improving the systems based on pla's continuing evolving defence and security requirements.

And that goes for the J-10 or J-11b as well.
 
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