J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

Bltizo said:

I agree, but it isn't that ludicrous to have a stealthy F-111 equivalent -- there's still a place for that kind of aircraft imho.
J-20 is not as large as the F-111 but its obviously designed for good fast and high altitude supersonic performance, and strong manouverability with the delta canard configuration, all moving tailfins and eventual TVC. I don't often agree with Carlo Kopp, but his idea that J-20 is similar to an FB-22 with a primary air to air mission isn't un...meritable.

(If you check out the wiki article on J-20, they've got the idea that J-20 is a stealthy interceptor like the Mig-31... dongfeng better write an article on sinodefence for wikipedia to cite :/ )

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aftet J-20 successful maiden flight, 718 project ( J-20 project) official celebration photos:

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Air Force Commander Xu Qiliang (right) and the PLA Armament Department Director Li Andong (left), attended the celebration.

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(left to right) Deputy General Manager of China Aviation Industry Corporation Yuhai, deputy director of the Technology Committee of PLA Armament Department General CONG Ri-Gang, the chief designer of the J - 20 YANG Wei.

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all test pilots celebration

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J-20 first test pilot Li Gang (the fifth one from left), J-10 first test pilot Liou Qiang ( the secon one from right)

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Bltizo said:

^ I do like the new jump suits the pilots are wearing. I think we saw similar ones for the 8-1 pilots at Zhuhai. I hope that these new khaki ones are standard -- the blue ones in current service look rather stupid.

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danielchin said:

So, according to banner, it was the maiden flight for J-20.
However, many Chinese speculated the real maiden flight had been conducted last year and powered by Russian AL-31F, while this was the "maiden flight" powered by Chinese WS-10(?).

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mkruo said:

Tao Guang Yang Hui (韬光养晦) said by Deng Xiaoping actually means do not be show-ish (or craving limelight), be humble, do not try to lead, which can be summarized as "mind our own business and be humble in world affairs".

"bide our time and hide our capabilities" intepreted and used commonly as template by western media and their "China's expert" when it comes to Deng's TGYH which served as China's policy is totally misleading awfully. this misinterpretation tends to implying that China wanted some kind of revenge from its 100 years of humiliation from foreign vultures then, that they are buying their time and building their capabilities stealthily waiting the right time to strike those who used to oppress her. they even instilling the notion that China is the next nazi germany in the making. this misinterpretation served as the basis for those who proclaiming China's threat.

just by comparing the two meanings is akin to heaven and earth. are they really just purely misinterpret it or they have other agendas. surely they can get the correct interpreter should they really sincere to know the meaning. besides there are loz of good articles explaining TGYH on the net for reference.


the way they twisted the meaning all along (which is their norm practice also on their so called "objective and truth" media business) tends to give the impression that those "China's threat" advocator do have their agendas.

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Bltizo said:

No, F-22 has a single weapons bay in the center which is wide, not long... (EDIT: Well alright, I can understand what you mean by long -- but in the realm of 5th generation aircraft weapon bays, the F-22's would be considered wide rather than long. The T-50's weapon bays would be considered "long").

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Bltizo said:

J-20 probably has a bay similar to the F-22's but could be a bit longer --regardlses we haven't got pictures of it yet. And having an internal payload in the F-35 realm isn't exactly something to brag about -- as of now they can only hold half the AA missile load of the F-22.

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nameless said:

F35 configuration is different, obviously different than J20, I dont know how you can conclude they have similar payload. Also F22 holds six while F35 can hold four in the belly.

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F-35 is a strike fighter. It has more payload than F-22. And J-20 will be at least F-35 payload class if not more. I didn't say anything about "number of AA" missiles. I don't know why you bring this up.

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maozedong said:

what? F-35 has more payload than F-22?

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