J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

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tanlixiang28776

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I know that china has already deployed advanced AESA s on the type 52C destroyer, KJ2000 AWACS, and likely on the J10B and J11B. China skipped the PESA step which is nice but how fast do you think they can deploy an AESA on the J-20
 

nameless

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I dunno siege. I mean it's not secret or anything. Why would he pretend not to know on something like that? At best he would look ignorant and uninformed. At worst people are going to assume the military is doing things behind his back which is a very very bad thing.

What do you expect from the WSJ, I cant believe some people would take it seriously.
Its all a part of the US agenda, it has to create a certain perception that any new technological development and assertiveness as a threat(China threat theory). This fit right in with that perception.
 

kyanges

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A few things,

Speaking of weapons, has there been any sign of a gun? Maybe it's under a pop-out panel too.
On the topic of avionics, the HUD and front panel haven't been blurred out this time around. Any comments on those?
The canopy also looks a little tinted too. I wonder if there's anything special about that, something like how the F-22's canopy is specially treated.

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I also wonder if they'll ever fix that landing gear door. The way it swings down like that always makes me think that one wrong move, and it's going to be sheered off.

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Assuming the weapons doors where we think they are, that's some fantastic precision fitting, where they don't show up even in such high quality photos. Even the F-22's doors and panels are clearly visible in comparable photos.
 
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siegecrossbow

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A few things,

Speaking of weapons, has there been any sign of a gun?
On the topic of avionics, the HUD and front panel haven't been blurred out this time around. Any comments on those?
The canopy also looks a little tinted too. I wonder if there's anything special about that.

The gun might be added later, on the back, like the Raptor's gun.

Coincidentally just how many of the 4S do you think the J-20 could reach, as of this moment. There is, for some reason, a lot of skepticism about its manueverability just because it is a large plane (not that I agree with that).
 

vesicles

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I dunno siege. I mean it's not secret or anything. Why would he pretend not to know on something like that? At best he would look ignorant and uninformed. At worst people are going to assume the military is doing things behind his back which is a very very bad thing.

I don't doubt for a millisecond that Hu knew all about it. Why? Let's assume the worst case scenario when Hu was totally not informed of the project. The internet pictures of this plane have been around for weeks on end. It would be impossible for Hu's own people not to notice. Let's face it, every boss has his own cronies, let alone a boss with Hu stature. His agents would definitely notice these photos, especially because of the importance of the project. Hu would be informed immediately IF he had no knowledge of it beforehand.

It would be impossible to keep Hu in the dark especially when he is the Chair of the CMC. Because of the rigid political structure of the Chinese govn't, no project at this magnitude can begin without the blessings of Hu. Additionally, General He last year publically annouced the existence of the stealth fighter program. It made a huge noise everywhere. Even assuming IF Hu had no knowledge of it before that, he would surely want to get to the bottom of this when General He publically talked about it.

Also, people saw all these head honchoes at the test flight since last week. No Chinese official would dare to publically embrace something like this without the knoweldge of the big boss. And all these high level military officials leaving their posts and go to Chengdu? Historically, Chinese govn'ts have been suspicious of their military commanders' movements. Even in ancient times, Chinese emperors had all these rules about when, where and how military official leave their posts. And Now, all these generals as well as civilian leaders gather in one place without the blessings of the big boss? What are you guys trying to do? PLanning a political/military coupe? Such thing would be IMPOSSIBLE. Not even 0.0001% of probability. absolutely ZERO!

Hu must have known about it. I think there have been conflicting news about this. As I posted earlier about a USA Today piece, it clearly says Hu confirmed the test flight with Gates. And when Gates asked if the test flight was planned around his visit, Hu told him the test flight had been planned for a long time and just happened to be at the same time of Gates' visit. Although I don't believe that the test flight had nothing to do with Gates' visit, what this piece clearly shows is that Hu knew about it and actually had explained to Gates about the planned test flight.

And now people are saying Chinese officials acted shocked. This is in direct contrast of what the USA Today claimed.

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tanlixiang28776

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Now that the plane is proven not to be Ps, a model, or incapable of flying without russian engines they have to find something wrong with it. Otherwise where would they get their feeling of self superiority from?
 

vesicles

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Now that the plane is proven not to be Ps, a model, or incapable of flying without russian engines they have to find something wrong with it. Otherwise where would they get their feeling of self superiority from?

Well, a Taiwnaese expert interviewed by USA Today said "it's easy to assemble an airframe. We don't know what the plane can do..." So now, building a stealth airframe has suddenly become easy. That's what I call an expert's opinion...
 

Cpt_Underpants

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Otherwise where would they get their feeling of self superiority from?

Please revise on your choice of words.. I don't think it has anything to do with "self superiority". That's an obsolete way of thinking.
In regards to the haters and self comforters, yes it is great to prove them all wrong.
 

windracer

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Well, a Taiwnaese expert interviewed by USA Today said "it's easy to assemble an airframe. We don't know what the plane can do..." So now, building a stealth airframe has suddenly become easy. That's what I call an expert's opinion...

I always trying to ignore what the Taiwanese officials said about this J20 is a hoax, a model, a copy blah blah, they always saying that their defense department "manage" everything.....If you can read some commets in TW's forums you will find many of the people there are so ignorant and stupid to believe what their gov. said, which make me laugh a lot...XD
 

siegecrossbow

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Well, a Taiwnaese expert interviewed by USA Today said "it's easy to assemble an airframe. We don't know what the plane can do..." So now, building a stealth airframe has suddenly become easy. That's what I call an expert's opinion...

In China we refer to such experts as “砖家”。

Could some one please answer my question about maneuverability?
 
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