J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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latenlazy

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I agree with this perspective.

Chinese military decision-makers must evaluate CHINESE geo-strategic adversaries’ military actualities and potentialities comprehensively in determining its forces weapons systems procurement and structures. Simple comparisons to this adversary’s or that adversary’s weapons systems, either functionally, numerically, or how these are organized, do not contribute to the formation of comprehensive procurement strategy.

Additionally, taking these geo-strategic adversaries’ military actualities and potentialities into consideration, Chinese military decision-makers must, I think, eventually, consider seeking to achieve both numerical and technological primacy (in their 3rd and 4th generation fighters) in the “Indo-Pacific” air domain, as opposed to near-parity. It won’t be cheap, but it will be necessary. The campaign to surround China with adversarial forces is only JUST beginning to take shape.
I think that given geography plays against the US in the Asia Pacific theater, especially closer to China’s periphery, near parity is basically enough to deter war. Parity and supremacy are what would be necessary to totally push out the US from the region entirely. If China can take war off the table for the US, depending on how the US reacts to those conditions, supremacy may not be a necessary objective, though China might arrive at that by sheer inertia of its growing economic capacity alone...
 

The Great Game

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I think that given geography plays against the US in the Asia Pacific theater, especially closer to China’s periphery, near parity is basically enough to deter war. Parity and supremacy are what would be necessary to totally push out the US from the region entirely. If China can take war off the table for the US, depending on how the US reacts to those conditions, supremacy may not be a necessary objective, though China might arrive at that by sheer inertia of its growing economic capacity alone...

Well, as I stated, my analysis isn’t based upon any single-adversary evaluation, but on a more comprehensive evaluation of adversarial actualities and potentialities. I’m fairly certain that the Chinese leadership is historically well aware of the degree to which “other” powers are willing to combine their forces in order to impose “unfair treaties” upon the Chinese nation. As such, CCP would be remiss to NOT consider that one, or more, regional adversaries (and, one in particular, but several in concert) might be willing to commit their 4th gen air resources as 2nd wave air-superiority and bomb-truck elements to US 5th gen vanguard forces.

Ultimately, we are talking about the future of the world’s economy and, just as was done in the past, there may be MANY takers looking to carve out a share of that share which can be expropriated from the Chinese sphere of influence.

As an example, consider that IAF (yeah, I know) MKI fleet working in concert with USAF F-22s and F-35s. This would probably require numerical superiority, at least, to neutralize, I think.

Oh, and don’t forget those Rafales! LOL!
 

BaiyueRaeuz

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Just how many J-20s are there? The number of fighters and other weapons in service within PLA seems to be always shrouded in mystery. Just watched Binkov's (by the way, Binkov is a Chinese residing in Canada, he's not Russian) video on a potential war scenario between China and the US, and he seems to give very outdated numbers for China. He said there're 40 J-20, 20 KJ-500, 140 J-16, 300 J-10A/S, and 115 J-11. Only the J-16 number seems to be roughly the same from what I gathered (148), while all the others are severely inaccurate. There should be around 50 J-20, 36 KJ-500, nearly 500 J-10 (with roughly 200 J-10 B/C), and about 300+ J-11.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Just how many J-20s are there? The number of fighters and other weapons in service within PLA seems to be always shrouded in mystery. Just watched Binkov's (by the way, Binkov is a Chinese residing in Canada, he's not Russian) video on a potential war scenario between China and the US, and he seems to give very outdated numbers for China. He said there're 40 J-20, 20 KJ-500, 140 J-16, 300 J-10A/S, and 115 J-11. Only the J-16 number seems to be roughly the same from what I gathered (148), while all the others are severely inaccurate. There should be around 50 J-20, 36 KJ-500, nearly 500 J-10 (with roughly 200 J-10 B/C), and about 300+ J-11.

Most likely Pinkov aka Adrei Chang who has expensive subscription only news letter on Chinese military He use to write fake news based on comment on Chinese forum that disparage any Chinese progress. Later he employ indian helper
 

daifo

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The sock puppet with a Russian accent? I think many youtubers are out there to profit than have real infomation. There is definitely a market and big money selling to the military fanboys just by seeing the millions of garbage videos when you try to search for anything.

Just how many J-20s are there? The number of fighters and other weapons in service within PLA seems to be always shrouded in mystery. Just watched Binkov's (by the way, Binkov is a Chinese residing in Canada, he's not Russian) video on a potential war scenario between China and the US, and he seems to give very outdated numbers for China. He said there're 40 J-20, 20 KJ-500, 140 J-16, 300 J-10A/S, and 115 J-11. Only the J-16 number seems to be roughly the same from what I gathered (148), while all the others are severely inaccurate. There should be around 50 J-20, 36 KJ-500, nearly 500 J-10 (with roughly 200 J-10 B/C), and about 300+ J-11.
 

siegecrossbow

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A pilot with just about 100 hours flight time on a "new modified fighter jet" managed to score a zero to 17 kills during air to air exercises.

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It's not just one pilot, it is him and his wing men. Since the aircraft mentioned is a newly equipped aircraft by the Wang Hai Brigade it most certainly is the J-20. However, there are debates on CJDBY as to whether they were carrying luneberg lenses when the mock combat occurred.
 

P5678

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Just how many J-20s are there? The number of fighters and other weapons in service within PLA seems to be always shrouded in mystery. Just watched Binkov's (by the way, Binkov is a Chinese residing in Canada, he's not Russian) video on a potential war scenario between China and the US, and he seems to give very outdated numbers for China. He said there're 40 J-20, 20 KJ-500, 140 J-16, 300 J-10A/S, and 115 J-11. Only the J-16 number seems to be roughly the same from what I gathered (148), while all the others are severely inaccurate. There should be around 50 J-20, 36 KJ-500, nearly 500 J-10 (with roughly 200 J-10 B/C), and about 300+ J-11.
Just FYI, there are several notorious names that are not trusted in this forum, Pinkov is one of them, another is Minnie Chan. If you know them long enough, you know who they are.
 
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