J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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eprash said:
Is it possible in the future for the J-20 to have F-22 like square nozzles?
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Everything is possible unless it directly contradicts physics.
You can make them square, triangular or whatever you want and can.

Question is wherever it has a point: to make square nozzle feasible, you design plane with it in mind, from the very basic geometry on, and the other way around.

Otherwise, thrust/efficiency loss is going to be very substantial.
 
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Just fan art. There is no way the pilot would be sitting so far forward in cockpit. And the whole two seat cabin was achieved here by elenogating the nose. In reality,the second seat would be positioned farther back, and the total length of the plane is unlikely to be meaningfully longer.

(All that assumes a simple two seater variant. If there are other changes such as more weapons or fuel carried, then anything is possible)
 
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Totoro said:
Just fan art. There is no way the pilot would be sitting so far forward in cockpit. And the whole two seat cabin was achieved here by elenogating the nose. In reality,the second seat would be positioned farther back, and the total length of the plane is unlikely to be meaningfully longer.

(All that assumes a simple two seater variant. If there are other changes such as more weapons or fuel carried, then anything is possible)
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At least in some forums they claim it would be AVIC's or even the official CAC account showing this video for the 10th anniversary of the J-20.
 
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Deino said:
At least in some forums they claim it would be AVIC's or even the official CAC account showing this video for the 10th anniversary of the J-20.
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As far as I know 航空工业/avic 2008 is the official avic wechat account.
Also at the bottom you can find 来源/航空工业成飞、航空工业成都所, Source/Aerospace Industry Chengfei, Chengdu Institute of Aviation Industry
 
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Deino said:
But does this have a meaning? or just a funny attempt to tease hyper-impatient German nerd?
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Having watched the music video, the twin seater was in there for less than a second. I don’t think they anticipated that anyone would catch it.
 
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Deino said:
But does this have a meaning? or just a funny attempt to tease hyper-impatient German nerds?
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Given that it is the same account that posted the promotional video with the 2x FC-31v2 in CGI appearance I think we can make a couple conclusions but I would be careful for now.

The FC-31s shown were pretty much 31003s, the fact that they appeared in a pair imo should indicate that these represent the production model as we just have one. Given that we don't know the exact shape of the J-XY/it is rumored to have slight deviances from the 31003 version I would refrain from putting much value into the exact shape and technical design specifications shown here except that the CGI is a 2 seat deviation from J-20.

Also since we expect physical J-XY evidence sometime this year (or a little later) I would read from this that we can expect more evidence of the twin seat J-20 soonish (next months-years).

Reading more from this than that we can expect a 2-seat J-20 deviation in the near term is Kaffeesatzleserei in my opinion.
 
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Here is what I have observed the "quality" of Chinese official channel or PR agencies of recent years.
  1. They have gained a lot of "freedom" in presenting things with low accuracy.
  2. They are "allowed" to make mistakes or twists out of what ever reason, personal taste or desire of the person who makes the video or other materials.
  3. Their overall quality can be very low.
Examples are:
  1. CCTV news channel field reporters (not the 19:00 anchors) have repeatedly NOT able to speak standard Mandarin. Make sentences out of grammar. Pronounce the word wrongly.
  2. A friend of mine works in a CCTV company that does video editing, they use materials that not necessarily represent the real thing, but just represent the idea, for example a footage of last summer is ok to be used in a report for this summer. By their standard, it would be OK to use footage of F-22 in place of J-20 if not because of the canards.
  3. The other example is the 81.cn site's video that we all know.
My attitude to this video is that, it is just a promo, even if a two-seater program exist without my knowledge, I won't be excited by this video probably because I don't really care a two-seater, don't see a purpose for it.
 
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