J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII


Scout

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Some rumours are on stating that several / dozens (?) of newly-built J-20s about to be handed over to a unit within the Northern Theater Command.

Overall a new unit makes sense given the 176th Brigade in late 2016, the 172nd Brigade in late 2017 and the 9th Brigade in late 2019 receiving the first J-20s it almost looks like a pattern.

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Totoro

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A little summary then, with questions:
176th brigade received J20 in late 2016. This was the first unit, and AFAIK, it's a test and training unit.
172nd brigade received J20 in late 2017/early 2018. But this seems to be a very mixed unit. Is it a training unit?
9th brigade received J20 anywhere from late 2018 to late 2019. (exact start seems to be in question) This seems to be a regular frontline unit?
1st brigade started conversion to J20 in early 2020. This appears to be a regular frontline unit?
85th brigade is also rumored to have started receiving some J20 in 2020. This would also be a regular frontline unit?

Test/training units are unlikely to be at 24 J-20 each, are they?

And do we even have info on a brigade that is made up entirely only of J20 planes? And if so, how many are there per such a brigade?
 

Deino

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A little summary then, with questions:
176th brigade received J20 in late 2016. This was the first unit, and AFAIK, it's a test and training unit.
172nd brigade received J20 in late 2017/early 2018. But this seems to be a very mixed unit. Is it a training unit?
9th brigade received J20 anywhere from late 2018 to late 2019. (exact start seems to be in question) This seems to be a regular frontline unit?
1st brigade started conversion to J20 in early 2020. This appears to be a regular frontline unit?
85th brigade is also rumored to have started receiving some J20 in 2020. This would also be a regular frontline unit?

Test/training units are unlikely to be at 24 J-20 each, are they?

And do we even have info on a brigade that is made up entirely only of J20 planes? And if so, how many are there per such a brigade?

Unfortunately I have only few answer but one more question: Since when is the "85th brigade is also rumored to have started receiving some J20 in 2020"? It's the first time I hear that.
 

Deino

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Scramble.nl mentioned that in their ORBAT. don't know anything else about it.

Oh, really? I must admit, since they changes their Orbat list to a abc-structure and no longer along the Theater Commands I find it very difficult to read.

Thanks for the reminder.

Anyway, this I think is only a deployment from what I heard!

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plawolf

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Maybe a nit pick, but why are there so many rivets on the canopy?

I know they will apply RAM coatings, but could they maybe not have designed it so the rivets are on the inside of the canopy to keep the external skin as smooth as possible?

With the canopy, it’s not like they would need to regularly undo the screws for regular maintenance and check ups to start with.

Even if you do need to undo the screws, that will mess up your stealth coating, so I am really struggling to understand why they didn’t just design the canopy frame such that all the rivets are installed from the inside.
 

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