J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII

qwerty3173

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Is the ws-10c2 and Ws15 old ready for mass production?
the first is already mass produced, possible retrofitted onto flankers later? The latter was abandoned because 1.ws10 was already performing so well that the project lost its necessity and 2. too low bypass ratio was discovered to be detrimental to range
 

bebops

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By comparing ws-10c2 and old WS15, the difference is small. At this point, it is better to remake the Ws15 and get a higher thrust like F119 vs F135.
 

Gloire_bb

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Not that you should really use max throttle all the time mind you... Never heard of people complaining their plane has too much thrust.
No one does, but it leads to a highly inefficient design in multiple ways, both for aircraft and the engine.

It isn't a world record book jet, after all. 2x18t is good for something 32-36t combat, 45-50 MTOW. That's a lot of jet.
 

taxiya

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How good is ws-15 and ws-10c in terms of thrust to weight ratio and how does it compare with f-135 which is the most advanced right now in terms of thrust to weight.
F-135 has higher T/W than F-119 because it has higher bypass ratio e.g. bigger fan. It isn't more advanced than F-119. If you compare their TW without afterburner, F-119 is still better. To make a point, LEAP-1 engine for airliners has higher TW ratio than F-135 without afterburner because of its huge fan. The point is TW alone isn't a measurement of advanced engine.
 
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