would make sense as a new version like 101x were the J-10/J-10A, 102x were the J-10S/AS, 103x were the J-10B and 105x the J-10C.
So can we expect this to be the J-20B??
Deino
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would make sense as a new version like 101x were the J-10/J-10A, 102x were the J-10S/AS, 103x were the J-10B and 105x the J-10C.
So can we expect this to be the J-20B??
Deino
China's should agree only if they offer 117 or better. 117S is not that much of an improvement over Taiwan other than having thrust vectorial nozzles.
danielchin
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He forgot to draw the ventral fins?
To admit it was only a guesswork since I - maybe wrong but already a habit - call the LRIP-birds J-20A.
I'm not really sure, but following the usual PLAAF nomenclature the first demonstrators are surely J-20 without an additional letter and since the prototypes were heavily revised I always call them J-20A. I admit, this is no where confirmed but since the PLAAF also changed confirmed from the designation Y-20 (= prototypes) to Y-20A (= serials) I think it is not too farfetched.
But I'm willing to be corrected.
Deino
Actually turbofans have not reached their max performance, the F-135 is being made more efficient, temperature limits are being raised, and thrust levels have come way up since it's inception??
China's persistent barriers to fielding the WS-15 are indicative of a "systemic problem",,, China and Russia's aspirational engines for the J-20 and SU-57 will require a "leap in technology".. when it comes to turbofans, "leaps" are very, very difficult, and commensurately very, very expensive, as is every system on a true 5Gen aircraft...
That's why I'm rather certain, even the West needs to expand its 5Gen parameters before we throw something on the drawing board,call it a 6th Gen, and say it will do this, and this, and into the future?, we will be able to do that???
if you make those leaps? in a series of steps grounded in reality along the way??? its not only easier and cheaper,,, you have some realistic parameters to determine time lines and ultimately expenses,,, ie, look at the F-35, LCS, and the Ford Class CVN,,, its much easier to walk rather than run toward the future, and that friends is what we all need to do,,,, "Walk, don't Run",,, that was a 60s song wasn't it??? still sound reasoning!
Hyperwarp
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J-20B so soon? Probably not. I think they'll keep the J-20/J-20A designation. That being said J-10B to J-10C was on a short timespan so then again maybe.
Maybe they'll call it J-20A2.
Gentlemen: you're missing the "Forest" because of all the trees?? the Russian F-117S currently powers both the SU-35 and the SU-57,,, each of these aircraft will??? according to our Russian Fans?? "Supercruise", Mach 1.1 to 1.3??? doesn't really matter, does it??
If indeed the F-117 will push those two "Super Flankers" above Mach 1 on dry thrust alone, its quite likely that two F-117S will also push the J-20 above Mach 1 on dry thrust, and that friends would be huge, huge, in an operational sense, particularly if you had relatively few J-20's and needed to reposition them quickly, either to engage potential Op-Fore?? or to strategically exit the battle space...
Of equal importance, it would potentially raise the service ceiling from the mid 40's?? to 55,000ft or so?? getting up into Raptor country, and that friends is why the Raptor is the Raptor,,, stealthy,,, fast, (supercruising at Mach 1.6 to 1.8),,, and extremely high altitude capability without pushing the aircraft and burning an inordinate amount of fuel to get there...
Operationally the Raptor departs and climbs immediately into the nether regions of the atmosphere for much more effiecient operation and a commensurate reduction in fuel burn, to enable the J-20 to supercruise, and to effectively increase its service ceiling by 10,000ft,,, that is huge...
Remember, China is already buying and flying the SU-35, there's a reason for that! more than likely the F-117S and its commensurate capability boost to the garden variety Flanker is the juice,,, just ask those Chinese SU-35 pilots what they think, no doubt the PLA already has??
remember, an engine is just an "air pump", more air in, more air out! BOOM!
Thx Air Force brat
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