J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

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Finally, I hope this is Real

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Someone was One Second ahead of me

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You need to find the Real bird

Looks to me the engine nacelle bottom view is different to that of the earlier prototypes. The certain bend just before the nacelle serrated edge is gone, which is a good thing because the nacelle is more streamline now.
 
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SpicySichuan

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Maybe from pics from the 16th Beijing Aviation Expo ( posted by 飞扬情报部 FYJS) This could be for J-20 or J-11D? ( Edit: The missile name is just the company name, not real name)

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If you look at the first image, especially the first display in the left of the liquid crystal glass display, the way the missiles are carried is similar to that of an Su-35. Therefore, I think the glass cockpit is for J-11D or other copies of Sukhoi fighter jets, maybe J-16. Think about the layout of the 12 external pylons of Su-30s and Su-35s.
 

taxiya

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If you look at the first image, especially the first display in the left of the liquid crystal glass display, the way the missiles are carried is similar to that of an Su-35. Therefore, I think the glass cockpit is for J-11D or other copies of Sukhoi fighter jets, maybe J-16. Think about the layout of the 12 external pylons of Su-30s and Su-35s.
It is surely not a J-20 loadout because the two center hardpoints, only flankers have that, not J-20. But it is a LCD screen, its layout can be changed to fit other planes at will. So it is still very possible that it is used by J-20 or even J-31.
 

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A dummy PL-10 AAM was fully extended outside the side weapon bay onboard the J-20 #2002 prototype.
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(K/AKK-10?) is the new generation IIR-guided missile in the same class of AIM-9X, ASRAAM, A-Darter, AAM-5 and IRIS-T. It features an IIR seeker (containing a 128x128 focal plane array?) and TVC, giving the missile a 90° off-boresight angle and 50gmax load plus an excellent IRCCM capability against aerial target maneuvering at high-gs.

It also has a "lock-after-launch" capability, which could extend its range to BVR. Similar to AAM-5 and IRIS-T, the latest design (circa 2013) features 4 enlarged tailfins plus 4 narrow stabilizing strips attached to the mid-section of the missile body, which help maintain missile's manoeuvrability at the terminal stage after the solid motor stops working. The development of PL-10 started in 2005 and a test round was launched from the ground in November 2008.

The development was thought to have entered a new phase in 2010 after the missile was test-fired from a CFTE J-11B. PL-10 is expected to be carried by J-10B/C, J-11D and
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fighter bomber as well as internally by J-20 and
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stealth fighters which are still under development. The latest rumor (September 2015) claimed that a PL-10 was test-fired successfully from a J-10C.
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Chief designer reveals data on China's new Luoyang PL-10 AAM


Richard D Fisher Jr, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

17 September 2015


The Luoyang Electro-Optical Research Institute (LEOC) has largely competed development of its fifth-generation PL-10 short-range air-to-air missile (AAM), according to comments by the missile's designer on a Chinese TV show broadcast in late August.

The PL-10 AAM was first seen on Chinese websites in 2013 being carried on a retractable/covered pylon on the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) J-20 fifth-generation fighter. More recently it has been seen on the wingtip pylon of the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation J-11 fighter.

The TV report featured an interview with the PL-10's chief designer, Liang Xiaogeng. According to Mark Stokes of the Project 2049 research institute, Liang also served as the deputy chief designer of LEOC's PL-9C infrared/helmet-sighted AAM and as chief designer of the PL-12 self-guided medium-range AAM.

The report was unusual in that it provided significant historic and performance data about a new weapon before its unveiling at a major arms show or exhibition. For example, the report noted that the PL-10 weighs 89 kg, has a length of 3 m, and a range of 20 km. It has been in development for seven years, a prototype was completed in 2013, and since then has been test-fired 30 times.

The report also noted that the PL-10 has "world class" capabilities that include a "multi-element imaging infrared seeker with anti-jamming capabilities" and indicated that it is capable of high off-boresight attacks and has super manoeuvrability.

Images from 2013 and more recently confirm that the PL-10 uses thrust vectoring vanes in its motor exhaust. These, plus unique large aft fins with a slight forward sweep, likely confer super maneuverability.

Like comparable AAMs, the PL-10 probably also uses a new helmet-mounted display (HMD) sighting system

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