J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)
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Can't believe those guys are working through Chinese New Year.
Flying is more joy than work, though I have been scared more than once and worked up a sweat, flying is extremely fun when things are going as planned and a wonderful sense of being a part of nature, kind like a bird man??? it does sound dumb, but it is true.
With the world in the mess its in today Siege, there just seems to be a sense of "urgent, urgency", everyone seems to be feeling that??
this is even dumber, but I think that phrase was used by Helen Hunt in the movie "Twister"??
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I'd really like to see a close-up frontal shot of 2015 like those of 2001 coming in for a landing. That latest 2015 shot has be close to that position.
A question about weapons load for the most discriminating
Internaly :
We know in weapons bays he carry minimum 6 AAM on 6 hard points maybe possible 8 with 3 AAM in each main weapons bays and also what qty of air to ground weapons ?
Same weapons bay configuration as F-22 which initialy had only 4 AIM-120 in the main weap bay and needed a new AIM-120 variant for put 3 inside. 1 t bombs 2 x 454 or 8 x 125 kg.
Externaly :
4 hard points as F-22 ? and for air to ground weapons we have few infos, no load in tons.
For her range i see in general 3000/3500 km a radius of 1500/1800 with a average load for a hi-lo-hi mission seems good ?
Internaly :
We know in weapons bays he carry minimum 6 AAM on 6 hard points maybe possible 8 with 3 AAM in each main weapons bays and also what qty of air to ground weapons ?
Same weapons bay configuration as F-22 which initialy had only 4 AIM-120 in the main weap bay and needed a new AIM-120 variant for put 3 inside. 1 t bombs 2 x 454 or 8 x 125 kg.
Externaly :
4 hard points as F-22 ? and for air to ground weapons we have few infos, no load in tons.
For her range i see in general 3000/3500 km a radius of 1500/1800 with a average load for a hi-lo-hi mission seems good ?
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The problem is that Chinese missiles are generally bigger due to weakness in solid fuel technology, so the J-20 cannot carry as many AAMs as the F-22.
Interesting, can you send us some links (reliable ones) on your claim that Chinese missiles are bigger because of the weakness the Chinese faced in terms of solid fuel technology?
Also if you bother to do a little bit of research, you would actually find that the Chinese missiles are almost the same size as the US missiles, for example PL-12 is roughly the same size as AMRAAM.
Length: 3.85m
Diameter: 203mm
Weight: 180kg
Length: 3.7m
Diameter: 180mm
Weight: 152kg
The difference, I doubt will actually mean carrying a couple less missiles. And also... has the Chinese actually release any information on how many missiles J-20 can actually carry, or was it just an estimation of what we are seeing in a couple of picture?
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From what I know is that while the AIM-120 AMRAAM has a diameter of 180mm, the PL-12 has 203mm. However, while the PL-12 has a range of only 70km (more recent versions possibly have 100), the newest AIM-120D has a range of 180km. So clearly there is something terribly outdated regarding the Chinese BVRAAMs.
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