But they will make very good airshow where you can see both eastern and western jets together
J-10 Thread IV
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antiterror13
Brigadier
It seems 42 second hand from PLAAF, wondering what version, it seems J-10A from the photos
I was hoping J-10CE .. probably Indonesia need them in hurry and get 42 J-10A second hand and then later on getting J-10CE
Interesting development ..... Indonesian pilot would soon need to learn Chinese
All this with seemingly zero AEW&C. Feels more like fighter diplomacy than procurement for objectives, even without J-10.
why would they need them in hurry tho? They are not in any major conflictIt seems 42 second hand from PLAAF, wondering what version, it seems J-10A from the photos
I was hoping J-10CE .. probably Indonesia need them in hurry and get 42 J-10A second hand and then later on getting J-10CE
Interesting development ..... Indonesian pilot would soon need to learn Chinese
F-15ID deal is likely gone imo due to J-10 and budget constraints. The 50 Boeings Prabowo Subianto and Trump were talking sbout we’re probably commercial airliners.
Indonesian enthusiasts are talking about a J-10BD with roughly same capabilities as J-10CE and with russian engines, I suspect due to the fact Indonesia is familiar with the AL-31F1 as they operate Flankers.
i disagree. Indonesia is a neutral country, and has its own interests, of course. It wants to have good relations with most countries. biggest issue are SCS (north Natuna islands), OPM in Papua and regional stability. also with Thailand and Cambodia conflict in June, it shows how much SEA a can be unstable.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I guess getting rid of the J10B entirely makes sense for the PLAAF to simplify the logistics side of things.
For Indonesia, I heard that their preference for second hand is more for internal politics where it is widely assumed/believed by politicians and the general public that second hand means a fantastic deal, even when it’s not the case. So it’s much easier to get approval for second hand as opposed to brand new, and there is less risk of public backlash at ‘wasteful’ arms purchases.
I think the biggest question make for me is whether they will do a radar and avionics upgrade before the sale and transfer of the J10B. Normally you would expect a refurbishment, but to bring them back to peak performance levels and make up for degraded performance from normal usage and wear and tear, and also to tweak the radar so it’s not behaving exactly like in service assets for opsec. But in this instance, both sides might be ok without a major overhauls.
For Indonesia, they get the benefits of lower cost, earlier availability, and the assurance that they are not getting a monkey version, with the added bragging rights of saying they are literally operating 100% PLAAF version of the J10.
For China, they might just not be bothered about given Indonesia their original version of the J10B since that’s such a niche type that will be gone from PLAAF inventories anyways since they will be selling the entire fleet.
For Indonesia, I heard that their preference for second hand is more for internal politics where it is widely assumed/believed by politicians and the general public that second hand means a fantastic deal, even when it’s not the case. So it’s much easier to get approval for second hand as opposed to brand new, and there is less risk of public backlash at ‘wasteful’ arms purchases.
I think the biggest question make for me is whether they will do a radar and avionics upgrade before the sale and transfer of the J10B. Normally you would expect a refurbishment, but to bring them back to peak performance levels and make up for degraded performance from normal usage and wear and tear, and also to tweak the radar so it’s not behaving exactly like in service assets for opsec. But in this instance, both sides might be ok without a major overhauls.
For Indonesia, they get the benefits of lower cost, earlier availability, and the assurance that they are not getting a monkey version, with the added bragging rights of saying they are literally operating 100% PLAAF version of the J10.
For China, they might just not be bothered about given Indonesia their original version of the J10B since that’s such a niche type that will be gone from PLAAF inventories anyways since they will be selling the entire fleet.
Ayi: The news about Indonesia buying the J-10 are all real — but “real” doesn’t mean “serious”
Ok hold on now...
Purbaya Approves Purchase of Chengdu J-10 Fighter Jets, Worth US$9 Billion
Minister of Finance Purbaya Yudhi Sadewa confirmed that the Ministry of Finance has approved the budget for purchasing a fighter jet or fighter jet from China, the Chengdu J-10.
Purbaya said the budget for purchasing the Chinese-made fighter jets reached US$ 9 billion.
"US$9 billion, if I'm not mistaken, or more. I forget the exact figure. But it's been approved, so everything should be ready," Purbaya emphasized when met at Wisma Danantara on Wednesday (10/15/2025).
Purbaya added that he had to double-check the purchase of the fighter jets. Although the budget had been approved, he admitted he didn't know when the fighter jets would be imported.
"What was mentioned should have been included in the budget. But I'm still double-checking whether he plans to import again next year or when," he said.
Edit: it seems like the deal may not be worth 9 billion, but rather that is the finance ministry's budget. Here's the interview at 2:00:
(Maybe someone here who speaks Indonesian could help us better understand what’s being said)
Purbaya Approves Purchase of Chengdu J-10 Fighter Jets, Worth US$9 Billion
Minister of Finance Purbaya Yudhi Sadewa confirmed that the Ministry of Finance has approved the budget for purchasing a fighter jet or fighter jet from China, the Chengdu J-10.
Purbaya said the budget for purchasing the Chinese-made fighter jets reached US$ 9 billion.
"US$9 billion, if I'm not mistaken, or more. I forget the exact figure. But it's been approved, so everything should be ready," Purbaya emphasized when met at Wisma Danantara on Wednesday (10/15/2025).
Purbaya added that he had to double-check the purchase of the fighter jets. Although the budget had been approved, he admitted he didn't know when the fighter jets would be imported.
"What was mentioned should have been included in the budget. But I'm still double-checking whether he plans to import again next year or when," he said.
Edit: it seems like the deal may not be worth 9 billion, but rather that is the finance ministry's budget. Here's the interview at 2:00:
(Maybe someone here who speaks Indonesian could help us better understand what’s being said)
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