J-10 Thread IV

[00CuriousObserver]

My take: it’s still unconfirmed. Someone suggested it might just be a bargaining tactic related to their other jet purchases. For now, I think it’s best to treat this as ongoing and wait for more concrete information

Edit: they deleted the post lol

 

[manqiangrexue]

How J10 was built, really cute and funny animation:

Video sucks. Total oversimplification.

They completely missed my favorite story, which was that the bidding between Shenyang and Chengdu for the fighter project was rigged for Shenyang and Song was just supposed to put on a little show to make it look like there was competition. But he decided that any chance was a chance worth his 100% so Song put on a passionate presentation of the J-10 design that was so overwhelmingly superior to Shenyang's proposal that even those who were corrupt and bought out were swayed to vote in his favor. Thus, the J-10 program was born.

My second most favorite story in the J-10 creation saga was when J-10 test pilot Li Gang said that the aircraft he was sitting in represented the hope of the nation and is like a child of everyone who gave all their dedication and time to create, so as long as the prototype did not disintegrate in the air during test flight, he would not eject no matter what, putting his own life down for any minute chance to save it if it lost control. His words can bring tears to my eyes every time I recall them. They missed that part too.

 

[Hafidz69]

delete

*Sigh... OPSEC again...

Luckily, it's already been screenshotted.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Very credible...

This is the new direct notice from Indonesia's Minister of Defense:

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Assuming that this is actual news and not another negotiating tactic.

The logistics and maintenance crews of the Indonesian Air Force be like:

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

To sum it up, the foreign operators and prospective customers of the J-10 family as of today are as follows.

Confirmed operators: Pakistan (J-10CE)
Confirmed orders: Uzbekistan (J-10CE?)
Unconfirmed but highly probable orders: Indonesia (J-10AGE?)
Prospective only: Egypt, etc

 

[Kejora]

To sum it up, the foreign operators and prospective customers of the J-10 family as of today are as follows.

Confirmed operators: Pakistan (J-10CE)
Confirmed orders: Uzbekistan (J-10CE?)
Unconfirmed but highly probable orders: Indonesia (J-10AGE?)
Prospective only: Egypt, etc

Azerbaijan?

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Azerbaijan?

They already ordered JF-17s. Doubtful that they would go for J-10 at this time.

 

[Deino]

New J-10C was spotted on a test flight, allegedly provided to Uzbekistan

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Allegedly the same one

 

[bsdnf]

Video sucks. Total oversimplification.

They completely missed my favorite story, which was that the bidding between Shenyang and Chengdu for the fighter project was rigged for Shenyang and Song was just supposed to put on a little show to make it look like there was competition. But he decided that any chance was a chance worth his 100% so Song put on a passionate presentation of the J-10 design that was so overwhelmingly superior to Shenyang's proposal that even those who were corrupt and bought out were swayed to vote in his favor. Thus, the J-10 program was born.

My second most favorite story in the J-10 creation saga was when J-10 test pilot Li Gang said that the aircraft he was sitting in represented the hope of the nation and is like a child of everyone who gave all their dedication and time to create, so as long as the prototype did not disintegrate in the air during test flight, he would not eject no matter what, putting his own life down for any minute chance to save it if it lost control. His words can bring tears to my eyes every time I recall them. They missed that part too.

601's J-13 proposal at the time was a complete mess and had no chance of winning. The Aviation Ministry likely knew beforehand that 601 had submitted the J-13, which the Air Force was already dissatisfied with, so they had 611 rush to come up with a proposal to participate in the meeting. Even if 611's proposal was equally poor, both would have been sent back for revision rather than wasting resources on the J-13.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Video sucks. Total oversimplification.

They completely missed my favorite story, which was that the bidding between Shenyang and Chengdu for the fighter project was rigged for Shenyang and Song was just supposed to put on a little show to make it look like there was competition. But he decided that any chance was a chance worth his 100% so Song put on a passionate presentation of the J-10 design that was so overwhelmingly superior to Shenyang's proposal that even those who were corrupt and bought out were swayed to vote in his favor. Thus, the J-10 program was born.

My second most favorite story in the J-10 creation saga was when J-10 test pilot Li Gang said that the aircraft he was sitting in represented the hope of the nation and is like a child of everyone who gave all their dedication and time to create, so as long as the prototype did not disintegrate in the air during test flight, he would not eject no matter what, putting his own life down for any minute chance to save it if it lost control. His words can bring tears to my eyes every time I recall them. They missed that part too.

Li Gang was the J-20 pilot. Lei Qiang test flew J-10 on maiden flight.