J-10 Thread IV

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Three high-resolution images from a performance at Lima 2023.

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Schwerter_

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High-resolution images J-10CYs from Malaysia.

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So the J-10CYs do look like they have most if not all combat subsystems retained by the looks of it, same as I speculated before. Very interesting, I wonder if there’s a a chance that these are just repainted combat-ready jets (as opposed to “dedicated aerobatics jets specifically produced for Bayi”) used for export demonstration or some other purposes?
 

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So the J-10CYs do look like they have most if not all combat subsystems retained by the looks of it, same as I speculated before. Very interesting, I wonder if there’s a a chance that these are just repainted combat-ready jets (as opposed to “dedicated aerobatics jets specifically produced for Bayi”) used for export demonstration or some other purposes?
The Air Force certainly has a purpose for using these aircraft for export displays, and it’s possible that this is the model they’re using. However, I don’t believe they are repainted combat-ready planes. After all, it’s time for the August 1st Aerobatic Team to upgrade their aircraft.
 

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So the J-10CYs do look like they have most if not all combat subsystems retained by the looks of it, same as I speculated before. Very interesting, I wonder if there’s a a chance that these are just repainted combat-ready jets (as opposed to “dedicated aerobatics jets specifically produced for Bayi”) used for export demonstration or some other purposes?
In addition to aerobatic flight mission, Bayi also has the duty of combat.

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这是空军八一表演队成立近50年来首次担负作战值班任务,标志着我飞行表演队战斗力生成模式发生转变,实现了从表演队向战斗队的跨越。
他们在2009年换装国产新型歼-10战机后,实行人员轮换制,从全空军飞行部队选调成熟的飞行员,在飞行表演队飞行二三年后再回作战部队。
记者从指挥所大屏幕上看到,三维图标实时显示着飞机的空中动态。指挥员对记者说,为更好地发挥战机优异的作战性能,飞行员充分利用表演训练间隙进行截击空战等课目训练,进一步提高飞行员的作战技能,锻炼飞行员和指挥员协作能力。
This is the first time in nearly 50 years since the establishment of the Air Force August 1st aerobatics team that it has taken on combat duty tasks, marking a transformation in the combat ability generation mode of aerobatics team and achieving a leap from an aerobatics team to a combat team.
After receiving the new domestically produced J-10 fighter jet in 2009, they implemented a personnel rotation system, selecting mature pilots from the entire Air Force, and returning to the combat units after flying for two or three years in the aerobatics team.
The reporter saw from the screen of the command post that the three-dimensional icon displayed the aircraft's aerial dynamics in real-time. The commander told reporters that in order to better utilize the excellent combat performance of the fighter jet, pilots make full use of performance training gaps to conduct interceptive air combat and other course training, further improving pilots' combat skills and enhancing their collaborative ability with the commander.
得益于“从作战部队选调优秀战斗员充实表演队,再以优秀表演飞行员交流至作战部队任职”的选拔交流路子,2017年,刚满30岁的沈元吉经过层层严格选拔进入表演队,掀开他飞行生涯新篇章。
鲜明的实战化导向,还覆盖到机务保障领域。表演队首次参加莫斯科航展,跨国航空机务伴随保障功不可没。精干化、小型化、综合化、集装化的保障机制作用突出。随队参加保障任务的机械技师白文国介绍说,过去,在国内表演转场时需要六七辆大型运输车运送保障装备。首次飞出国门,保障装备装载由5个方舱减少至两个方舱,机务保障人员也相应减少,但保障水平丝毫没有降低。
今天的八一飞行表演队,始终保持着战术训练水平和战斗值班能力,组织空中加油训练,提高远程机动能力,多次担负战斗值班任务。
Thanks to the selection and exchange approach of "selecting excellent fighters from the combat units to enrich the aerobatic team, and then sending excellent aerobatic pilots to serve in the combat units", in 2017, Shen Yuanji, who had just turned 30 years old, underwent strict selection and entered the team, opening a new chapter in his flying career.
The distinct combat practical orientation also covers the field of maintenance support. The team participated in the Moscow Air Show for the first time, and the accompanying cross-border aviation maintenance is indispensable. The maintenance mechanism of streamlining, miniaturization, comprehensiveness, and containerization plays a prominent role. Bai Wenguo, the mechanical technician accompanied the team, introduced that in the past, six or seven large transport vehicles were needed to transport maintenance equipment during a deployment mission in China. This is the first time flying abroad, the loading of maintenance equipment was reduced from 5 cabins to 2 cabins, and the number of maintenance personnel was correspondingly reduced, but the level of maintenance remained unchanged.
Today's August 1 aerobatic team has always maintained its tactical training and combat duty ability, organized aerial refueling training, improved its long-range mobility, and repeatedly undertook combat duty tasks.
 

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"Y" variant is for 演(yan)。as in 表演。 Customized for 八一飞行表演队(bayi feixing biaoYAN dui)
“Y” variant is customized for August First acrobatic Display team. Y stands for "Display" as in Acrobatic Display.

Why do you think it is customized for Egypt?
Perhaps it’s because I still don’t know what was added to the modified spine. Surely it can’t be a prop specifically for enhancing flight performance? I’m not saying the J-10CY is customized for Egypt, and I’m not even sure if Egypt buying the J-10C is true. However, I think Egypt’s air combat environment differs from Pakistan’s. If it wants to buy the J-10C, Chengdu will offer three models: one for the PLAAF, one for Pakistan, and one for the August 1st Aerobatics Team. If Egypt considers customization, I would focus on the J-10CY esealy. Of course, they may change another name.

Maybe I’m wrong. Perhaps the J-10CY more easily reminds Middle Easterners of the improvement of the F-16 BLOCK 52?
 
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In addition to aerobatic flight mission, Bayi also has the duty of combat.

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This is the first time in nearly 50 years since the establishment of the Air Force August 1st aerobatics team that it has taken on combat duty tasks, marking a transformation in the combat ability generation mode of aerobatics team and achieving a leap from an aerobatics team to a combat team.
After receiving the new domestically produced J-10 fighter jet in 2009, they implemented a personnel rotation system, selecting mature pilots from the entire Air Force, and returning to the combat units after flying for two or three years in the aerobatics team.
The reporter saw from the screen of the command post that the three-dimensional icon displayed the aircraft's aerial dynamics in real-time. The commander told reporters that in order to better utilize the excellent combat performance of the fighter jet, pilots make full use of performance training gaps to conduct interceptive air combat and other course training, further improving pilots' combat skills and enhancing their collaborative ability with the commander.

Thanks to the selection and exchange approach of "selecting excellent fighters from the combat units to enrich the aerobatic team, and then sending excellent aerobatic pilots to serve in the combat units", in 2017, Shen Yuanji, who had just turned 30 years old, underwent strict selection and entered the team, opening a new chapter in his flying career.
The distinct combat practical orientation also covers the field of maintenance support. The team participated in the Moscow Air Show for the first time, and the accompanying cross-border aviation maintenance is indispensable. The maintenance mechanism of streamlining, miniaturization, comprehensiveness, and containerization plays a prominent role. Bai Wenguo, the mechanical technician accompanied the team, introduced that in the past, six or seven large transport vehicles were needed to transport maintenance equipment during a deployment mission in China. This is the first time flying abroad, the loading of maintenance equipment was reduced from 5 cabins to 2 cabins, and the number of maintenance personnel was correspondingly reduced, but the level of maintenance remained unchanged.
Today's August 1 aerobatic team has always maintained its tactical training and combat duty ability, organized aerial refueling training, improved its long-range mobility, and repeatedly undertook combat duty tasks.
Wow thanks! Didn’t know Bayi also had combat duties, that certainly would explain a lot.
 
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