J-10 Thread IV

[zszczhyx]

I wouldn't take the quote too seriously.

In the same quote, they say:

"The J-10C can produce 29,000 lb thrust, which is 10,000 lbs excess thrust than the JF-17 produces, and as much power as two and a half Mirages put together. A single Mirage produces 14,000 lb thrust"

Two and a half x 14,000 lbs = 35,000 lbs
And 35,000 lbs is obviously lower than 29,000lbs.

So I don't think they are being too careful with the real numbers lol

In the annotation of the photo they say “ws-10 engine could produce thrust In excess of 29000 lbs during take-off And whenever needed during combat In air.”

 

[minusone]

According to the PAF, their J-10C have 29000lb of thrust:

"The J-10C can produce 29,000 lb thrust,"

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They are either hiding the real thrust number, or it is capped for improved reliability, or export variant is equipped with WS-10A.

 

[siegecrossbow]

People who are hung up on the max thrust number are missing the forest for trees. The important thing is that the PAF pilots are startled by how powerful the WS-10 is and compared its performance favorably to that of F-16’s. Can you imagine that just 10 years ago an earlier variant of this engine was still spewing parts everywhere?

 

[Deino]

no question about that. I'm also waiting to see those GAIC J-10s. I don't think CAC is still producing J-10s for PLA

But do we have any proof that production was handed over to GAIC?

 

[tphuang]

People who are hung up on the max thrust number are missing the forest for trees. The important thing is that the PAF pilots are startled by how powerful the WS-10 is and compared its performance favorably to that of F-16’s. Can you imagine that just 10 years ago an earlier variant of this engine was still spewing parts everywhere?

sure I can. It would be an embarrassment if WS-10 hasn't become a lot more powerful in 10 years. The only thing that really impressed me with WS-10 program is its current production rate.

But do we have any proof that production was handed over to GAIC?

I haven't seen any proof

 

[drowingfish]

sure I can. It would be an embarrassment if WS-10 hasn't become a lot more powerful in 10 years. The only thing that really impressed me with WS-10 program is its current production rate.


I haven't seen any proof

what is the production rate?

 

[Franklin]

sure I can. It would be an embarrassment if WS-10 hasn't become a lot more powerful in 10 years. The only thing that really impressed me with WS-10 program is its current production rate.

Its all comes down to economics. China combines the world's largest savings pool with the world's largest technically and scientifically qualified workforce. And a massive domestic market. Under these circumstances progress in the industrial and technological fields will be rapid.

 

[minusone]

"More than 29000 lbs"

 

[Deino]

sure I can. It would be an embarrassment if WS-10 hasn't become a lot more powerful in 10 years. The only thing that really impressed me with WS-10 program is its current production rate.


I haven't seen any proof

In fact I asked Sean O‘Connor from Jane‘s, this is his reply:

„As far as I can tell, GAIC at Anshun is currently producing the Wing Loong I/II, WZ-7, and JL-9. No sign of J-10 production. With the expanded construction halls at CAC I'm not sure they'd need to move J-10 production to GAIC. Unless CAC needs the production space for something else entirely?“

 

[tphuang]

In fact I asked Sean O‘Connor from Jane‘s, this is his reply:

„As far as I can tell, GAIC at Anshun is currently producing the Wing Loong I/II, WZ-7, and JL-9. No sign of J-10 production. With the expanded construction halls at CAC I'm not sure they'd need to move J-10 production to GAIC. Unless CAC needs the production space for something else entirely?“

The other explanation is that they just have stopped producing J-10s for PLAAF