J-10 Thread IV


FangYuan

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In my opinion, the J-10 is the best aircraft in China's military industrial history, it's much more important than the J-20. Versatile, cheap, easy to maintain, high combat performance, this is a great aircraft. There are many who think that J-20 is better than J-10 because of its invisibility, but don't forget the F-117 lesson. J-20 and J-10 are like Tiger with T-34. It would be even better, if China developed a special version of the J-10, similar to the F-35B role, operating on aircraft carriers.
 

Deino

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In my opinion, the J-10 is the best aircraft in China's military industrial history, it's much more important than the J-20. Versatile, cheap, easy to maintain, high combat performance, this is a great aircraft. There are many who think that J-20 is better than J-10 because of its invisibility, but don't forget the F-117 lesson. J-20 and J-10 are like Tiger with T-34. It would be even better, if China developed a special version of the J-10, similar to the F-35B role, operating on aircraft carriers.
Pardon, but please do your homework and some other of your posts seem also more driven by fan-boy's wet-dreams than by rational thinking. :mad:

How shall a VSTOL-varaint of the J-10 be developed - or even work? - "similar to the F-35B"??
That's plain ridiculous!
 

Deino

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Deino, you are a bit too harsh. So what if he is a fanboy. To a certain extend everyone here is one. Just relax a little bit, my humble opinion. Corona stuffed most of us at homes so be more more tolerant, everyone will online more often and spent more time here :)

Sorry for that and thanks for calming me down. So, Yes you are correct, asking silly questions is not worth such a harsh reply ... but if you look at his first posts (suggesting a VSTOL-J-10, building easily 6 stealth fighters in parallel, a bomber An-225 to crush China's enemies, a 40-60,000 t DDG to dominate the seas ...) is IMO way beyond any line of being a simple fan boy. This is stupid nothing but stupid nationalism.

But in principle You are correct.
 
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Broccoli

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How of then J-10 pilots practice with guided bombs? What I have seen it seems they are still relying heavily on unguided weapons what exposes plane to manpads and other light AA systems when they swoop towards the target.
 

plawolf

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How of then J-10 pilots practice with guided bombs? What I have seen it seems they are still relying heavily on unguided weapons what exposes plane to manpads and other light AA systems when they swoop towards the target.
For China’s threat environment, LGBs are of very limited use. Most of the targets the PLAAF might need to bomb in likely combat scenarios will be defended with advanced air defences, and any fighter will be shot down long before they are within range to drop LGBs.

That is why dedicated Chinese strikers like the JH7, Su30MKK and J16s all focus overwhelmingly on long range standoff munitions use.

PLAAF iron bomb training seems largely geared towards providing frontline troops with CAS support.

You don’t really need LGBs since most frontline troops won’t have laser designators, and would just be calling out grid references, so iron bombs would work just as well as LBGs for the vast majority of cases at a fraction of the cost.

Also, such roles will only be conducted once the airspace is secured, or at a minimum with massive SEAD and DEAD support, so range won’t really be an issue.

Also, the rapid development of UCAVs within China has made LGBs further less important, since UCAVs would now be able to hit most of the kinds of targets you might previously have needed LGBs for.
 

Air Force Brat

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j-10b/c looks much better than A...
Well it never hurts to have a pretty airplane, but what changes in particular do you find more attractive

The other consideration is while the newer variants are usually more capable with electronics or weapons, they are usually heavier as well?
 

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