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delft

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You still don't get it.
taliban and al queda expected the US to commit same mistake make by the soviet.
instead the US take different approach,particular in the field technology.real time search and destroyed,sensor to shoot net centric warfare.according to taliban flee to pakistan told british newspaper,that every time 2 or 3 gathering in the street,automatic draw fire from the US fire power.so dangerous that they decided to hold meeting the cave.thinking that the cave will protect them ,But US useeath penetration bomb to destroyed the cave complex,bury thousand of taliban alive,
US ability to introduced new technology to confront new threat.information or data are feed directly to B-52 or AC-130 gunship in real time.(you simple look at youtube

I certainly don't get it. I remember the USAF attacking many wedding parties. And I don't see the US leaving Afghanistan after installing a democratic, pro-US, government. ( Is that combination even possible? )
 

plawolf

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You still don't get it.
taliban and al queda expected the US to commit same mistake make by the soviet.
instead the US take different approach,particular in the field technology.real time search and destroyed,sensor to shoot net centric warfare.according to taliban flee to pakistan told british newspaper,that every time 2 or 3 gathering in the street,automatic draw fire from the US fire power.so dangerous that they decided to hold meeting the cave.thinking that the cave will protect them ,But US useeath penetration bomb to destroyed the cave complex,bury thousand of taliban alive,
US ability to introduced new technology to confront new threat.information or data are feed directly to B-52 or AC-130 gunship in real time.(you simple look at youtube
according to kanwa, China order solfware and hardware from belurussia specializing in net centric warfare..

FFS! Stop passing off baseless rumors and your own conjecture and opinions as solid facts.

Your incessant off topic ranting is getting as tiring as it is irrelevant and inaccurate.

Since when does AESA or PESA have anything to do with netcentric warfare and networking? It is datalinking that is the key to netcentric warfare, and as long as the datalink hardware and software are in place, it doesn't make the blind bit of difference if the radar feeding information to that network is AESA, PESA, PD or even multistatic. Everything in the battlenet will still be able to share the radar data, the only difference would be the quality and quantity of information uploaded into the network by the radar.

Your decision to try and make an issue out of netcentric warfare is even more ridiculous when you consider the well documented fact that the F22 has very poor datalink and networking capabilities because of it's stealth requirements.

Now, that is already far too much time, bandwidth and energy wasted on this pointless diversion, so can we please put this non-issue to bed and focus on what everyone but you seemed to have come into this thread to read about - the J10?

Oh, just one last thing, a bit of a personal observation, but it's funny how there seems to be a correlation between big, positive announcements or leaks regarding the Chinese military and the number and intensity of your off topic and/or negative 'according to blah blah blah' posts.

Even when we write on forums, our actions speak far louder than our words.
 

challenge

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kanwa's Augusy 2011 issue,Phozotron chief manager/engineer Yuri Bely claim that the picture of J-10B was PESA, but the idea of mounting IFF antenna on main radar dish is consider obselete design,due to the problem of cross interference,most the IFF antenna are relocated to "edges flaps".
Back in 1997 Phozotron sold two set of PERO PESA radars and 30 set of TWT transmitter to China,he believe China use the technology to reverse engineer the radar for J-10B.
according to Yuri Bely,during his visit to China, he was shown sample of T/R module and other associate electronic component,indicate that China is seriouly developing AESA radar,while the chinese engineers capable builing the hardware and the main radar , most difficult phase will be solfware integration.
 
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Lion

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kanwa's Augusy 2011 issue,Phozotron chief manager/engineer Yuri Bely claim that the picture of J-10B was PESA, but the idea of mounting IFF antenna on main radar dish is consider obselete design,due to the problem of cross interference,most the IFF antenna are relocated to "edges flaps".
Back in 1997 Phozotron sold two set of PERO PESA radars and 30 set of TWT transmitter to China,he believe China use the technology to reverse engineer the radar for J-10B.
according to Yuri Bely,during his visit to China, he was shown sample of T/R module and other associate electronic component,indicate that China is seriouly developing AESA radar,while the chinese engineers capable builing the hardware and the main radar , most difficult phase will be solfware integration.

Remember when Kanwa claim ex-varyag now on trial has no arrestor hook system since Russia will not sell them. Now what happen?

I will say almost anything from Kanwa claiming Russia know this and that about China military development are junk.
Kanwa has degraded themselves even worst than Strategypage....
 

antiterror13

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Remember when Kanwa claim ex-varyag now on trial has no arrestor hook system since Russia will not sell them. Now what happen?

I will say almost anything from Kanwa claiming Russia know this and that about China military development are junk.
Kanwa has degraded themselves even worst than Strategypage....

But most people interested in China still read Kanwa, unfortunately :) .. like yourself ... but I don't, as I know it's rubbish
 

70092

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Talking about super-computer, in 2011, the JiangNan insistute that producing CPU called ShenWei that can deliever 128G DP flops per CPU now, and it is merely based on 65nm techs.

The performance is much better than the Russian's projected performance of CPU called E something which is promised to tape-out at 2014(and we all know the track record on how good russians can fullfill their "promises").

And now there are completely made in China super-computer based on ShenWei now listed in world Top 10 or so supercomputer.

So Russians and their fanboys can STFU and feel free to leave this topic and hide under a rock now.
 

antiterror13

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Talking about super-computer, in 2011, the JiangNan insistute that producing CPU called ShenWei that can deliever 128G DP flops per CPU now, and it is merely based on 65nm techs.

The performance is much better than the Russian's projected performance of CPU called E something which is promised to tape-out at 2014(and we all know the track record on how good russians can fullfill their "promises").

And now there are completely made in China super-computer based on ShenWei now listed in world Top 10 or so supercomputer.

So Russians and their fanboys can STFU and feel free to leave this topic and hide under a rock now.

Sunway rank 14 but the others top Chinese supercomputers rank 2 and 4

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Hyperwarp

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Talking about super-computer, in 2011, the JiangNan insistute that producing CPU called ShenWei that can deliever 128G DP flops per CPU now, and it is merely based on 65nm techs.

The performance is much better than the Russian's projected performance of CPU called E something which is promised to tape-out at 2014(and we all know the track record on how good russians can fullfill their "promises").

And now there are completely made in China super-computer based on ShenWei now listed in world Top 10 or so supercomputer.

So Russians and their fanboys can STFU and feel free to leave this topic and hide under a rock now.

I think you are referring to 'Elbrus'? Well they had brilliant people at one time (Soviet days), but quite a few of them were hired by US companies, especially Intel -
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(rather ambitious). Even Boris Babaian became Microprocessor Technology Chair @ Intels Moscow R&D center.

Thing is the Russians had their own 'Elbrus' ISA (they also separately worked on SPARC) where as Shenwei is
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derived (Loongson is MIPS).

Ones PRC has it own instruction sets like x86, ARM, MIPS, Alpha, SPARC etc, etc..... then its really game on
 
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