I mean that makes sense. F-35s are stealth fighters and are therefore hard to detect and require lots of training, IADS (That aren't controlled by a foreign country) and your own well trained air force to properly counter.
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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Israel wouldn't survive, even against a current Iraq, if the West lifted it's support. The Muslims in the regional countries are cornered, while Israel has an exit. In historical warfare, especially in many Asian cultures, the attacking force would leave an opening for the opponent to exit the battle (give up safely instead of resisting) - Israel, in all it's wars, always had an opening to return to Europe, unlike the Muslims. Even in the current war, despite Israel having a huge upper hand, a significant chunk of Israelis fled to Cyprus, Thailand, and Europe.
Turk needs NATO to fend off Russia's age old ambition of controlling the Bosphorus, while they understand NATO and EU aren't exactly of generous intent and have ulterior motives. Problems with Iran on one side and Greeks on the other side, plus Kurd separatists in the south propped up by USA, and then Israel. They really are in the center of a hell hole, balancing all sides imo pretty effectively so far. Any slip in this balance, i.e. loss of NATO support due to conflict with Israel, is major trouble for Ankara.
Israel, in the bigger picture, is on the losing side. China eroding Western power is the cause.
This region is saturated with heavy civilian air traffic. Risk to civilians by IADS is immense, and we've had that in the past once when USN shot down an Irani civilian aircraft and killed nearly 300 passengers (albeit there is evidence of it being deliberate). Israel also doesn't notify anybody ahead of time of incoming strikes so they can clear air traffic, unlike the rest of the civilized world. They hide behind civilian cover, making interception difficult, much like placing their military assets in Israel in civilian areas.
^^ this is at night time, off peak hours
The reporter is deaf, uses sign language
Cost of war
Cost of war
Doesn't matter, US and the rest of the western world will bankroll them. They'll do it even if they had to sacrifice themselves and all their people on an altar.
Yes Nato did nothing before at the Cyprus matter. Although British and USA holds on tight. Isreal too. Erdo, after PKK arms down (in questionable announcement of Ocalan) If he make peace with Kurdish ( on expence of Syrian western cut borders ) it will be a strategic win for islamic etc world. Can they put on hands on US nukes at Diyarbarkir? Just in case lol
Its funny when you consider the cuck currently "running" Syria would go on to sign a "security" agreement with Israel the day after, granting all of Netanyahu's demands and getting nothing for Syria.