ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

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looking at this map (it's an overview as of June 2 by "deSyracuse"), with An Tanf highlighted, 100+ kilometers from ISIL, it could be interesting to see the Russian denial of what's described in
Russia bombs U.S.-backed Syrian rebels near Jordan border

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now I read in Twitter claims
РБК-500 ШОАБ-0,5
were used; I of course don't know if these claims are true or not, but I looked at what munition this would be (it's according to
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):
РБК as in "casing of cluster munition" (разовая бомбовая кассета), but I don't know what -500 means; it contains around 565 of
ШОАБ as in "aerial bomb with spherical bomblets" (шариковая авиабомба), but I don't know what -0,5 means; it contains 304 pellets, 0.68 g each,
so 565*304*0.68*2.20462/1000 which is about 257 pounds of pellets inside one of РБК-500 ШОАБ-0,5

and purportedly that's from An Tanf today:
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Yesterday at 9:41 AM
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looking at this map (it's an overview as of June 2 by "deSyracuse"), with An Tanf highlighted, 100+ kilometers from ISIL, it could be interesting to see the Russian denial of what's described in
Russia bombs U.S.-backed Syrian rebels near Jordan border

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so far, the only official Russian is ТАСС
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yesterday in the evening basically translating what's in
Statement by Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook on U.S.-Russia Video Conference
The Department of Defense today held a video conference co-chaired by Acting Assistant Secretary for International Security Affairs Elissa Slotkin and Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie, director, J-5, Strategic Plans and Policy on the Joint Staff, with Russian Ministry of Defense counterparts. The video conference was held to discuss airstrikes conducted by Russian forces on June 16 on the At-Tanf border garrison, striking Syrian opposition forces conducting counter-ISIL operations in the area. This extraordinary session was convened under the auspices of the Safety of Flight Memorandum of Understanding, an arrangement between the counter-ISIL coalition and Russian Federation to maintain safety in the air space over Syria.

Department officials expressed strong concerns about the attack on the coalition-supported counter-ISIL forces at the At-Tanf garrison, which included forces that are participants in the cessation of hostilities in Syria, and emphasized that those concerns would be addressed through ongoing diplomatic discussions on the cessation of hostilities. Regarding safety, department officials conveyed that Russia’s continued strikes at At-Tanf, even after U.S. attempts to inform Russian forces through proper channels of on-going coalition air support to the counter-ISIL forces, created safety concerns for U.S. and coalition forces.

Department officials requested Russian responses to address those concerns. The two sides reiterated the need to adhere to measures to enhance operational safety and avoid accidents and misunderstandings in the air space over Syria.
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probably too much debris on the ground
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/is...no-oped-no-policis.t6913/page-383#post-401942
to deny everything ... the toughest part could be
As soon as the U.S. jets left the area to refuel, the Russians came back for another round of bombing, the defense official said.
if true (quote from inside of https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/is...no-oped-no-policis.t6913/page-382#post-401901)
 

delft

Brigadier
Surely US AWACS aircraft are flying around there and watch all aircraft operating over Syria and Iraq. They must know who was near Al-Tanf when the "fortification" was attacked?
now I noticed while I had slept, General of the Army S. K. Shoygu came to talk to Mr. Assad:
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EDIT:
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I think it is more important that he is the Russian defence minister than that he is an General of the Army or that he is a Buddhist.:)
They don't need translators?
 
now having seen this:
I really need to extend my vocabulary to include, in English
vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED)
in Russian Internet called just кaр-бомбa (as in car-bomb): don't know the official

I recalled I had posted most of Infantry guns can't do much about it:
Apr 28, 2016
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apparently some Syrian Kurds
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/is...no-oped-no-policis.t6913/page-363#post-396807
have an access to
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Yesterday at 9:41 AM
oJiRB.jpg

looking at this map (it's an overview as of June 2 by "deSyracuse"), with An Tanf highlighted, 100+ kilometers from ISIL, it could be interesting to see the Russian denial of what's described in
Russia bombs U.S.-backed Syrian rebels near Jordan border

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and here it comes, a good one:
...
"Representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry explained in a well-argued manner that the bombed site was located more than 300 kilometers outside of the territory marked by the American side as districts where opposition units engaged in the cessation of hostilities regime were active," Konashenkov said.

"The Russian Aerospace Forces acted in line with the agreed procedures and had notified members of the U.S.-led coalition of their choice of ground-based targets for their strikes in advance," he said.

"At the same time, as the Russian Aerospace Forces conducted these strikes, the American side did not provide the coordinates of the districts where opposition units backed by it were active, a circumstance that made it impossible to take measures to adjust the actions of Russian aviation," the Russian general said.
in
Russia rejects U.S. complaint about Russian Forces' actions in Syria
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I've checked it fits the version in Russian (dated 12:23 19.06.2016):
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Yesterday at 9:41 AM


and here it comes, a good one:

in
Russia rejects U.S. complaint about Russian Forces' actions in Syria
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I've checked it fits the version in Russian (dated 12:23 19.06.2016):
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so Russia Says US Failed to Provide Syrian Opposition Locations
The Russian military has rejected the Pentagon's accusations that it targeted U.S.-backed Syrian opposition forces, saying the U.S. failed to warn about their locations.

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, said the area targeted in the June16 strike was 300 kilometers (186 miles) away from locations earlier designated by the U.S. as controlled by legitimate opposition forces.

The Pentagon said Russian warplanes struck Syrian opposition forces fighting the
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group in Al-Tanf.

Konashenkov said in his June 19 statement that the Russian military had warned the U.S. in advance about the planned strike, but the Pentagon had failed to provide coordinates of legitimate opposition forces.

On a conciliatory note, he added that Saturday's video conference with the Pentagon was "constructive," reflecting a shared desire to improve coordination and avoid incidents.
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delft

Brigadier
I really need to extend my vocabulary to include, in English
vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED)
in Russian Internet called just кaр-бомбa (as in car-bomb): don't know the official
Why try to learn a complex American formula when the English "car bomb" will do very well.:)
 
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