ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)


Air Force Brat

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A UN resolution on Syria is shattered — and Russia is to blame

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I had been seeing pictures from reportedly downtown Idlib during this Sunday, now I noticed
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Thank you Master Jura, for once again shedding light on the truth, and shame on BHO, Kerry, and Hillary for continuing to "cover up" the whole truth of their failed Mid East policy.
 

Jeff Head

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On SD we are NOT going to give platform to wild conspiracy theories.

Single sourced, un-named contacts. US general's at the very top level going behind their CINC to provide intel to Assad via Russia.

The US through Obama supporting ISIS, along with Turkey and Saudi Arabia, even while the US bombs ISIS and the others officially denounce them...and all of the supposed "support" through cutouts of course.

Look, it is pretty obvious that I personally am no fan of Obama's, but I am not going to go in for this stuff, or allow SD to be dragged into the wild eyed conspiracy land.

Sorry, unless and until there is solid evidence of these conspiracy theories from multiple named sources and credible major outlets, we simply are not going to run with them here. Take them some where else.

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bajingan

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A UN resolution on Syria is shattered — and Russia is to blame

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I had been seeing pictures from reportedly downtown Idlib during this Sunday, now I noticed
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It seems like the "rules of engagement" for fighting ISIS or whichever group the Russians are fight does not include avoid any and all possibilities of killing or injuring civilians. the Russians seems to be sending civilians living with the rebels and ISIS a message that If you are near where the "enemy" is located, and if you are providing them food with your "bakeries" and providing them shelter you will be killed along with the enemy.

In my humble opinion this is one reason the west can not and will not ever succeed in any asymmetrical warfare now or in the near future -- be careful not to cause any colorectal damage no matter how much damage it may cause to the enemy. It may seems harsh but I think the enemy, not the Geneva Convention, should determine any and all "rules of engagement" in a war.
The enemy started the war and they should be allowed to laid down the "rules of engagement" as to how they wanted it fought.
 

Brumby

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It seems like the "rules of engagement" for fighting ISIS or whichever group the Russians are fight does not include avoid any and all possibilities of killing or injuring civilians. the Russians seems to be sending civilians living with the rebels and ISIS a message that If you are near where the "enemy" is located, and if you are providing them food with your "bakeries" and providing them shelter you will be killed along with the enemy.

In my humble opinion this is one reason the west can not and will not ever succeed in any asymmetrical warfare now or in the near future -- be careful not to cause any colorectal damage no matter how much damage it may cause to the enemy. It may seems harsh but I think the enemy, not the Geneva Convention, should determine any and all "rules of engagement" in a war.
The enemy started the war and they should be allowed to laid down the "rules of engagement" as to how they wanted it fought.
There are rules and mode of behaviour expected in an armed conflict. It is not a variable standard subject to who the enemy is even if your adversaries happen to be behaving in a barbaric manner like ISIS. The Russians just tend to sail closer to the edge than say the U.S. which is more self restraining when considering collateral damage and likely civilian casualties. There are activists and interest groups out there ever ready to label war crimes at every given opportunity e.g. Kunduz Hospital.
 

FORBIN

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Ramadi situation, accurate maps !

I precise the name Anbar yet is the region near of Ramadi but mainly a Iraqi Army Command " Anbar Operational Command " equivalent Army Corps get 1st and 7th Division yet based here in peace time ofc reinforced especialy by SF, other units and Elts of 9th Mech Div with M-1 we have see have also T-72.

8th ID rattached to Basrah Operational Command
16th ID destroyed last year to Mosul recreated

Annouced also in more new BMP-1 delivered, Bulgaria have sold T-72 no sure.

The ISF began a major operation to penetrate central Ramadi on December 22, 2015. An element lead by the Counter-Terrorism Service (
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) entered Ramadi from al-Humaira area south of Ramadi into the city’s southern neighborhoods. A separate CTS force entered from Ta’mim area southwest of Ramadi into al-Haouz neighborhood in southern Ramadi using a
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, as all of Ramadi’s bridges have been heavily damaged. ISW has confirmed that formations from the 8th
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(IA) Division,
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, and Anbar
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have also entered the city. ISW was not able to confirm or deny the participation of elements of the 16th IA Division, a formation that was trained and armed by the Coalition. At the time of publication, ISW confirmed the presence of the ISF in
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,
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,
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, and
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neighborhoods in southern Ramadi, with possible but unconfirmed operations in
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and
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neighborhoods.

The ISF appear to have consolidated control over areas additional areas southwest of Ramadi, including the 8th Brigade Base (also known as Camp Warrar) west of Ramadi and the neighborhoods of 5 Kilo and Ta’mim, as these areas have witnessed no significant kinetic activity for weeks. ISW is changing the status of these areas to “ISF / Tribal Fighter control.” The operation to fully clear the city of ISIS still faces significant obstacles. ISIS’s manpower within the city is vastly diminished – Operation Inherent Resolve spokesperson Steve Warren
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on December 22 that ISIS only had 250 to 350 fighters left in the city. Nevertheless, the ISF continue to encounter resistance in the form of IEDs, tunnel networks, and suicide bombings. At least one attacker with an SVEST or
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attempted to target security forces in southern Ramadi on December 22 following previous SVBIED and direct fire attacks to the
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on December 15 and
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of Ramadi on December 16. The ISF are still in the process of clearing the
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of Juraishi, Albu Thiab, and Albu Faraj. Neighborhoods outside of central Ramadi to the north and south thus remain contested, though the ISF maintain a heavy presence.

Recapturing the city will be a major victory for the ISF and PM Abadi, but significant challenges lie ahead. For one, Ramadi will remain exposed to counter-attacks by ISIS, particularly from the north from ISIS-held Hit district, if the ISF shifts forces away from Ramadi to focus on other operations. Large sections of the city suffered heavy damage during the operation, and resettling internally-displaced persons (IDPs) may prove to be both a logistical and a security challenge. Finally, it is unclear who will ultimately hold and secure Ramadi against counter-attacks by ISIS. The ISF have stated that local tribal forces and local police would secure recaptured areas, but ISF formations will also be required to hold the area. It remains uncertain whether those formations are responsive to the Iraqi government or consist of forces loyal to Iranian proxy militias. Iranian proxy militias and the Federal Police, which have close ties with Iranian proxy militias, are positioned to the east of the city near Habaniya base. These forces may advance into Ramadi’s eastern suburbs and towards the city center in order to claim credit from the ISF for participation and obtain leverage over the final composition of the security forces in the city. Iranian proxy militias made a similar move in Tikrit in April 2015, positioning themselves around some of Tikrit’s entrances in order to control who could enter and exit the city. Intervention by Iranian proxy militias in Ramadi would undermine ISF operations and the overall security of the area by inflaming sectarian tensions

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Irak Ramadi Control Map 2015-12-22 high.jpg

Irak Ramadi Control Map - Central ramadi 2015-12-22 high.jpg
 

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