Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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B.I.B.

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So much for stopping Huawei 5G network from entering the EU or 'the five eyes' nations.

"............Last month, Britain identified "significant technological issues" in Huawei's engineering processes that pose "new risks" for the nation's telecommunications, according to a government report."

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IMO How do we know whether there are'nt problems with Nokia and Erricsons engineering process unless they are subject to the same tests?
 

B.I.B.

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Yes the UK simply has too much to loose by banning Hauwai.
Hauwai employs lots of people, have vast stake in the UK telecommunication industry. On top of that, the UK simply don't want to hurt GDP growth by getting left behind technologically, paticularly with the Brexit debacle.
On top of all that, the UK has worked too hard to get back on side with China and access to China's huge market after the dali lama debacle during Cameron/Osborne period to simply thtow it alll away to appease US foreign policy.
Its very ironic that right now theirs a hunt going on for the leaking of this information. The leak certainly didn't come from Hauwai!
I'm just surprised that the countries down under still holding out (at great cost for very little benefits)!

Lead by our Deputy Prime minister Winston Peters and Prof,Anne Marie Brady of Christchurch Uni an increasing amount of Nzders want to see a push back against China, politically culturally and with an avoid becoming to dependant on China for our primary products such as milk powder.
Some are suggesting India which is at the same stage China was, when us dairy farmers made a push into China, is another market we should be pursuing.
Brady who is a leading China critic had filed a complaint to the police that Chinese secret agents broke into her house ransacked it and tried to injure/possibly kill her by deflating the tyres on her car.


Heres another laughable story. Earlier on, she suggested that Chinese owned farms had transmission towers which were built by Hwawei beaming signals out to some Chinese sub lurking in the Pacific.
 
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Hendrik_2000

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Via Chinese dragon. Huawei is the 2nd largest smartphone maker
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The world’s second-largest phone maker is now Huawei, and it has the top spot in its sights.

IDC and Strategy Analytics have released their latest smartphone shipment numbers, and the clear winner of the last few months has been China’s Huawei, at the expense of incumbent global leaders Samsung and Apple, both of which lost ground.

Huawei has been flirting with the position of world’s second-largest smartphone vendor for a while, having taken over from Apple for the first time in 2017, before switching back and forth in 2018. The company’s improvement in 2019, however, appears to set it up with a firmer control of the second spot: Huawei jumped from 39.3 million phones shipped in the first quarter of 2018 to 59.1 million shipments in Q1 2019, as noted by both IDC and SA.

Apple’s iPhone shipments shrunk from 52.2 million in the quarter last year to what’s estimated to be between between 36 and 43 million (Apple recently stopped reporting iPhone sales in its earnings reports) for the same period this year. Samsung went from 78.2 million shipments to 71.9 million. In fact, without Huawei’s burgeoning growth, the smartphone market might aptly be described as experiencing its own form of recession. US carriers AT&T and Verizon last week reported that smartphone upgrades among their subscribers are at record lows, and other Chinese phone makers like Xiaomi and Oppo are mostly just holding steady with their sales numbers.

Other global brands that used to have significant presence in the phone market are suffering too. Sony’s sales keep dwindling, and the company has said it intends to halve the staff it has working on its mobile business. LG last week quit making phones in its home country of South Korea, opting to lower costs by shifting production to Vietnam. And HTC is only technically still in the mobile business by virtue of producing that zany blockchain phone.

Huawei is the exception, and in more ways than one. The company has been very publicly rejected by the United States government, and it has zero presence in that highly lucrative and developed market. All of its progress over the past year has been in its home territory of China and through successful expansion of its business in Europe.

HUAWEI IS COMING FOR SAMSUNG’S CROWN

Over the course of the past two years, which has been a time when Apple and Samsung have contented themselves with mostly iterative updates, Huawei has consistently made huge strides between every device release. The company has invested heavily in its camera hardware, which has paid off with terrific performance (currently unmatched in low light) and has stirred smartphone owners to hit the “upgrade” button.

The goal for Huawei has always been to become the top smartphone vendor in the world, which seemed like overzealous optimism only a few months ago. As of today, it feels closer to an inevitability. Huawei forecasts it will get out ahead of Samsung by the end of this year, and if its aggressive rate of improvement continues, there’s little reason to doubt it’s capable of achieving that high goal.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Here it is via proudpakistaniguy. If it continue it will topple Samsung at the end of the year as the largest smartphone maker in the world impressive
Huawei reaches all-time high market share in Q1 2019

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on global smartphone shipments, Counterpoint also sent out a press release with its findings. The readings are similar and confirm an ongoing trend - Huawei keeps gaining market share and has just reached an all-time high piece of the shipments pie - whopping 17%.

However, the total shipments are 345 million or 5% less than an year ago, revealing a declining demand for new smartphones.

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Huawei was really proud when it became the second biggest smartphone company in the world and announced plans that it wants the top spot by 2021. It looks like the Shenzhen manufacturer is poised to snatch it, unless something catastrophic happens. Looking at Samsung and Apple, they lost respectively 1% and 2% of market share, meaning Huawei devoured smaller competitors.

The rest of the Top 5 is completed by Xiaomi, which kept pretty much the same amount of devices shipped YoY, and Oppo, which saw a 10% increase. The other BBK Electronics’ subsidiary vivo also deserves a mention with the staggering 27% grow.

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In absolute numbers, Samsung shipped 72 million phones, Apple moved 42 million iPhones, and Xiaomi, Oppo, and vivo also kept an eight-digit tally. They all account for 245.1 million shipped devices, which is over 70% of the global amount.

The market is clearly marginalizing with every quarter, with former megastars like HTC and Sony nowhere to be seen today, and LG slowly following their path with a 40% drop in just a year.

Source : GSMArena
 

styx

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banning chinese company to obtain american products for cellulare phones will simply signify chapter 11 for Corning Qualcomm and many other american companies. China Wins, Fatality...
 

ZeEa5KPul

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I don't know about the US shooting itself in the foot, but it's certainly shooting its "allies":

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Theresa May sacks British defence minister Gavin Williamson over Huawei leak
  • In letter to Williamson, May says she has ‘compelling evidence’ he is behind ‘unauthorised disclosure’ of plan to let Huawei build parts of UK’s 5G network
  • Denying he was involved, Williamson said he was offered chance to resign but turned it down as it would have been an acceptance of guilt
British Prime Minister Theresa May on Wednesday sacked Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson following a probe into the leak of news that Britain had conditionally allowed China’s Huawei to develop the UK 5G network.

“The Prime Minister has this evening asked Gavin Williamson to leave the government, having lost confidence in his ability to serve in the role of Defence Secretary and as a member of her Cabinet,” said a spokeswoman from her Downing Street office.

May said in a letter to Williamson that the investigation “provides compelling evidence suggesting your responsibility for the unauthorised disclosure” from the April 23 meeting of the National Security Council.

“No other credible version of events to explain this leak has been identified,” she added.

“This is an extremely serious matter and a deeply disappointing one,” she added, with Williamson now facing the possibility of a criminal probe.

“This must now be referred to the Metropolitan Police for a thorough criminal investigation into breaches of the Official Secrets Act,” said Liberal Democrat Leader Vince Cable.

Williamson responded in a letter to May, saying he was “sorry you felt recent leaks” originated from the defence ministry.

“I strenuously deny that I was in any way involved in this leak and I am confident that a thorough and formal inquiry would have vindicated my position.”

He revealed that May had given him the chance to resign, but turned it down as it would have been an acceptance of guilt.

Downing Street later announced that Penny Mordaunt, the Minister for Women and Equalities, would replace Williamson and become Britain’s first female defence minister, while continuing in her current role.

Britain’s already splintered government was rocked by the scandal over who leaked news that May was to let Huawei develop Britain’s 5G network. The bitterly disputed decision was reportedly made at the April 23 meeting.

National Security Council discussions are only attended by senior ministers and security officials who first sign the Official Secrets Act that commits them to keep conversations private or risk prosecution.

But The Daily Telegraph newspaper reported that May approved granting Huawei permission to build up “noncore” elements of Britain’s next-generation telecommunications network.

The United States is adamantly opposed to Huawei’s involvement because of the firm’s obligation under Chinese law to help its home government gather intelligence or provide other security services when required.

British media reported that Cabinet Secretary Mark Sedwill – the country’s most senior civil servant – gave those present an ultimatum to deny responsibility for the leak.

Williamson was one of the first to do so, calling it “completely unacceptable”.
 

Gatekeeper

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Lead by our Deputy Prime minister Winston Peters and Prof,Anne Marie Brady of Christchurch Uni an increasing amount of Nzders want to see a push back against China, politically culturally and with an avoid becoming to dependant on China for our primary products such as milk powder.
Some are suggesting India which is at the same stage China was, when us dairy farmers made a push into China, is another market we should be pursuing.
Brady who is a leading China critic had filed a complaint to the police that Chinese secret agents broke into her house ransacked it and tried to injure/possibly kill her by deflating the tyres on her car.


Heres another laughable story. Earlier on, she suggested that Chinese owned farms had transmission towers which were built by Hwawei beaming signals out to some Chinese sub lurking in the Pacific.

It is quite sad that some politicians behave in such ways, that display symptoms of paranoia, and xenophobia.
It's particulally sad when you consider the object of the fear have never done anything to them in the past to warrent such reaction.
I mean, what has China ever done to little New Zealand in the past to warren such behaviour?
 

Gatekeeper

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Well here have it, it was none other than our very own DEFENCE SECRETARY, Gavin Williamson.

And this together with the US coming out publically with a veil threats to their allies that "security sharing" would be jeopardised if Hauwai is installed in the country's infrustruture. (talk about desperate measures)!

Prime minister May is mad as hell! so yes, it seems like US is not only shooting its own foot, but her allies as well. Looks like its a shotgun that's being used!
 

Gatekeeper

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Simple, by not having white skin.

More than a little of Australia’s deep seated racism has rubbed off on some New Zealanders.

Yes, agree and it saddens and scares me at the same time!

There's really no need for it. It's such an illogical mentality. It's almost cavemen mentality. The sad thing is this way of thinking is not just restricted to one or two individuals. It's quite mainstream nowadays!
 
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