Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

tamsen_ikard

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MREs are basically calorie top-ups until you get back to base or to somewhere where there is a field kitchen.
Thats not how it works these days. Nowadays you dont setup field kitchens in the front lines. You eat MREs, sometimes for weeks and months, until you are rotated out of the front lines.

And if you look at MREs for other countries in the west, they have huge variety in mains. Especially that channel shows all kinds of MREs of various countries. Even Russian and belarus MRE is very good.

China is still too basic in this department. I guess, peace disease in action. They probably never eat MREs even in exercises.
 

Blitzo

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I would argue that having the majority of your infantry force being incapable of modern night fighting is in fact a critical shortcoming that should be urgently addressed by modernization efforts lol

On the one hand, I agree to an extent. On the other hand, if we rank the most pressing traditional domains of warfare/service branch for the PRC, from highest yield to lowest yield to seek maximal funding in, in terms of its strategic priorities and regional challenges:
- Air/Naval/Missile/Cyber/Space/Joint Logistics
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- Ground

And if we were to separate the major components needed for a successful ground warfare military, from highest yield to lowest yield in context of its major pressing ground priorities to seek maximal funding in, I would say:
- Fires/recce/C4I/EW/logistics/supply
- Mechanization/motorization/rotary support/organic AAD
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- Infantry


Of course, having competent infantry is somewhat important in the prior aforementioned domains (Air/Naval/Missile/Cyber/Space/Joint Logistics) for the purposes of things like base security and counter-SOF efforts, and in theory all warfare is multidomain and joint to an extent as well...
... but it is undeniable that infantry fitout is probably the lowest yield priority for the PLA in ground warfare, while ground warfare itself is the lowest yield domain/service branch for the PLA overall. Infantry fitout is thus the least important of the least important.


So sure, having most of infantry incapable of nightfighting is a critical shortcoming, but if it gets to the stage where infantry being incapable of nightfighting becomes significantly relevant to the PRC warfighting effort, then chances are everything else has already gone poorly for the PLA as a whole and the conflict is basically already over.


Now, I do agree that I think the PLA should be well funded enough that I think they can probably proliferate night fighting equipment a bit more widely in a slightly more standardized manner than they have in the past.
E.g.: SOF, recce units, could probably standardize to have it as part of their curriculum and TOE. But I'm not unsympathetic to the reasoning for why standard line infantry have yet to receive stuff like NODs and IR lasers.
 

totenchan

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Thats not how it works these days. Nowadays you dont setup field kitchens in the front lines. You eat MREs, sometimes for weeks and months, until you are rotated out of the front lines.

And if you look at MREs for other countries in the west, they have huge variety in mains. Especially that channel shows all kinds of MREs of various countries. Even Russian and belarus MRE is very good.

China is still too basic in this department. I guess, peace disease in action. They probably never eat MREs even in exercises.
Is your only purpose for being on this forum to flaunt your ignorance?
 
Pretty much all of PLA MRE mains seem to be fried rice and noodles. They need to bring in some more meat.
And if you look at MREs for other countries in the west, they have huge variety in mains.
Why should Chinese MREs conform to the culinary preferences of other cultures? And you are aware that there are other protein sources outside of meat- and the Chinese diet is not as meat heavy as Western diets?
 

Clango

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Pretty much all of PLA MRE mains seem to be fried rice and noodles. They need to bring in some more meat.
Why though? If they're getting their proteins, trace elements and nutrition why would they need more meat? Aside from the fact that this might not even be legit PLA ration to begin with?
 

wssth0306

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Boy you have not eaten MRE in the field , I for one would want less meat , they taste wierd when they are from a can.
Also you tend to shit the meat out or it stays in for weeks, there is no between.
If you have a MRE heavy diet , you either shit 5 time a day or once every 2 weeks , depend on if you are lucky.
In any case sweet sutff taste better when you are tired , and stressed, and often cold or wet.
Anythin that is warm is fine , I swear your sense of taste is weird when you are on 3 hours of sleep, all things taste that same.
 
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