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zyklon

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Not sad at all, sorry. It is one less pro-Modi radical, fanatical pro-Hindutva regime pilot that can attack Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, etc.

Pilot got smoked the same way China would have smoked him if he ever turned his face towards the Chinese border. Simple as.

Not everyone in the Indian military is an extremist or Hindutva, or even Hindu. In fact, a disproportionate percentage of Indian servicemen are Sikhs.

A lot of servicemen are like most humans regardless of religion or nationality: they're just trying to make a honest living. Unless you and your country are engaged in active hostilities against them and their employer, it doesn't hurt to have some compassion.

Some conflicts are unavoidable, but they don't need to go on forever. A bit of respect for and magnanimity to adversaries, especially at an individual level, can go a long way.
 
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Randomuser

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Not everyone in the Indian military is an extremist or Hindutva, or even Hindu. In fact, a disproportionate percentage of Indian servicemen are Sikhs.

A lot of servicemen are like most humans regardless of religion or nationality: they're just trying to make a honest living. Unless you and your country are engaged in active hostilities against them and their employer, it doesn't hurt to have some compassion.

Some conflicts are unavoidable, but they don't need to go on forever. A bit of respect for and magnanimity to adversaries, especially at an individual level, can go a long way.
It's doesn't actually matter their background is. What matters is who they serve which right now answers to BJP and Modi. A century ago these same soldiers were serving the Brits to shoot people from other countries including China or become part of the police/enforcers of colonial rule.

So yeah. Hard to feel sorry for. When you are part of the military, this is what you signed up for knowingly. These days people like to only focus on gains and benefits, not so much on responsibilities and expectations when it comes to a profession. Military has a rather high rate of occupational hazards.
 

TK3600

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India was always a democracy and "open" so this 1991 reform marker is pretty much meaningless -- very unlike China which needed fundamental changes from a closed economy to a trading nation. This is nothing but an excuse and a hope (cope) that India needs XX number of years to catch up.

India is not 13 years behind. The number of years behind is basically indeterminate because China is growing far faster in everything -- in both things India has and thing India never had.

For example, a dozen years ago India had two carriers and China had none. China is now far ahead of India and accelerating the gap to unbreachable proportions with CATOBAR, EM, carrier-borne fixed-wing AEW, carrier-borne stealth fighter, etc. So India was 13 years behind in carriers in 2010 and is India today 13 years behind China today in fielding a stealth naval fighter on a CATOBAR carrier?

Example 2, India had never built a large transport like Y-20 which will be built in the hundreds and in variants from refueler to FTB to AEW. Will India be able to come up with a platform like this in 13 years? It can't even build a small turboprop transport!

In both cases, the best timeline would be in decades -- if ever. That "13 years behind" is senseless hope and cope. There is no determinate number of years behind.
I would make an argument that India is regressing relative to their early 2010s position. Much of their domestic program werr shelved over foriegn purchases.
 

CMP

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Not everyone in the Indian military is an extremist or Hindutva, or even Hindu. In fact, a disproportionate percentage of Indian servicemen are Sikhs.

A lot of servicemen are like most humans regardless of religion or nationality: they're just trying to make a honest living. Unless you and your country are engaged in active hostilities against them and their employer, it doesn't hurt to have some compassion.

Some conflicts are unavoidable, but they don't need to go on forever. A bit of respect for and magnanimity to adversaries, especially at an individual level, can go a long way.
Armed forces are in the business of killing people. It's self-destructive to have compassion for them given they would not hesitate to shoot you for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Let's not forget the Indian armed forces' mass killings of their own national minorities.
 
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gelgoog

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Why old planes like Jaguar and JH-7 more likely to kill their pilots during crash compared to newer planes like Flankers and J-10? Unreliable ejection seats?
It's the engines. Jet engines only got modern levels of reliability in the 1980s with the introduction of FADEC.
Engines back then had more surges and flameouts and you got more crashes.
The Adour engine of the Jaguar was designed in the 1960s.
Jaguar should be less bad than some other aircraft of that era because it is twin engine.

There are also claims the engines are underpowered for the hot and high conditions in India.
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As for ejection seats I think modern levels of reliability were attained by the Soviets in like the 1970s.
 
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AlexYe

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It's the engines. Jet engines only got modern levels of reliability in the 1980s with the introduction of FADEC.
Engines back then had more surges and flameouts and you got more crashes.
The Adour engine of the Jaguar was designed in the 1960s.
Jaguar should be less bad than some other aircraft of that era because it is twin engine.

There are also claims the engines are underpowered for the hot and high conditions in India.
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As for ejection seats I think modern levels of reliability were attained by the Soviets in like the 1970s.
Ignore the text but yeah from the video, the engines are giving out, they dont have the power to lift them up safely anymore
 
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