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ougoah

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Form does follow function but these morons always have certain thoughts about copying lol.

I mean their Tejas is a Mirage copy. Their Akash is a Kub copy. Their Nirbhay is a Tomahawk copy. Their Arjun is a Leopard 2 copy. Their INSAS is a AK/ FAL copy. Their helicopters are copies and so on. But they need to talk down on China when China did copies. I mean everyone from Israel to Serbia, from USA to UK does copies and have copied. The difference is in the capability of the platform. But Indians love to say the word "copy" because it serves to degrade Chinese and they feel it promotes them for "not copying" which is a whole big lot of lol.

The difference is their industry sucks and even their copied stuff arrive decades late, sucks, underperforms, has absolute junk subsystems (thanks to lower scientific and industrial basis). So yes outwardly, everyone are able to copy but there are differences in the achievements still.
 

ougoah

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They still have not managed to make an intercontinental ranged SLBM. It's still the same K-15 variation type missile. I mean a submarine launched cruise missile has even greater range than the K-15. A cruise missile would be many times stealthier albeit much slower and packs a smaller warhead. Still... China managed to launch JL-1 (a proper SLBM) 40 years ago now back in 1982. A missile with nearly three times the range of the K-15 and the JL-1A which went into service over 20 years ago, with a range more than three times that of K-15.
 

beijing_bandar

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The Print, an Indian online news publication for policy and defense, is running a three-part series on lessons for the Indian military from the Ukraine War. In Part I, the writer discusses the failures of the Russian Air Force.

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Some specific directions from the article:

Buy drones
“Loitering munitions are cheap and very deadly,” said former Indian Air Marshal Anil Chopra.

“Larger drones,” Chopra added, “leave a lot of radar signature which is helpful to the enemy to track them down, but small ones are almost undetectable.”

Don't buy attack helicopters
According to some, India has already taken some steps in the wrong direction. Earlier this month, the IAF
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its first squadron of the indigenously-made Light Combat Helicopter. The Army also has plans to induct several more attack choppers.

“The Ukraine experience helicopters will provide easy targets for shoulder-fired missiles on the Line of Actual Control (between India and China),” one senior defence officer pointed out.
 

beijing_bandar

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It was a massive mistake for China IMO to not press ahead in 1962

It's not often discussed, but the likely main goal of any boundary negotiation with India for China is to recover a fairly obscure piece of real estate called the Tawang tract. In February 1951, India (or rather the Governor of Assam) sent a small military expedition to Tawang and annexed it. British India had never ruled over Tawang and according to the source below the Government of India in Delhi had never instructed the Governor of Assam to annex it. Situated in the Tawang tract is a town and the Tawang Monastery, "one of the most holy sites for the faith of Mahayana Buddhism". While most of the rest of the entire Indian state of Arunanchal Pradesh is claimed as South Tibet, nobody seriously wants it. Occasionally, the Chinese Ambassador in Delhi might give an interview to Indian media and claim the whole thing. However, I believe Tawang and most importantly the monastery is the true goal. Similar to Indian claims over Azad Kashmir (Pakistan administered Kashmir), no one in India seriously wants to take control of the territory even if the gate was wide open. It would just be a huge headache without much benefit.

I wanted to bring up this bit of history and explanation about the likely negotiation position of China to better focus the discussion on whether any mistakes were made in 1962 in hindsight.

In February 1951, Tawang found its own ‘Patel’ in Jairamdas Daulatram, the Governor of Assam, (the Iron Man of India had passed away two months earlier). Daulatram ordered a young Naga officer to go and immediately begin administrating Tawang (the then Kameng Frontier Agency).

A couple of years ago, an Indian journalist, Sidharth Mishra, provided a fascinating and detailed profile of Major Bob Khathing, the Naga officer in charge of the Sela sub-division: “In 1951, Major Bob Khathing commanded a force of 200 soldiers and re-established India’s sovereignty over Arunachal Pradesh, much to the annoyance of Jawaharlal Nehru.” Some other documents, such as the ‘official’ biography, Major Bob Khathing — The profile of a Nationalist Manipuri Naga by lt Col H Bhuban Singh, complete the picture of Major Khathing’s expedition.

An incident mentioned by Mr Mishra is worth a comment. Once the administration of Tawang was firmly under control, the bold Naga officer went back to Shillong to report to his mentor, Jairamdas Daulatram.

Mr Mishra writes: “So, he set out downhill to Tezpur with a small retinue, leaving the expeditionary force in charge of [Major TC] Allen. The Governor sent a Dakota to pick him up from Tezpur and they flew to Delhi to see Jawaharlal Nehru... The then Prime Minister was livid. ‘Who asked you to do thisIJ’ he vented his anger at the Governor. ‘I wish you had the good sense to consult me before you commissioned this colossal stupidity. I want a complete blackout on this incident’, he ordered the PMO.”

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