How long it takes to send the reinforcement by railway to Tibet ?
India incursion and Chinese standoff at Dolam, Bhutan
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Hendrik_2000
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Well at least China go along wit UN sanction and that give fresh hope that this time around it will forced the Noko to abandon their missile quest. Therefore lessen the change of surgical strike. It might be false hope but it buy times at least
It take 24 hr to 2 days for reinforcement from other part of China they have been exercising frequently over the year
Anyway the latest news NO more talking China even refuse to discuss it with this Ajit guy saying that is not realm of SR(special representative) that was created to discuss border issue where Ajit and Yang are the representative of India and China. Now even low level contact ambassador level stop
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India's diplomatic efforts to end a seven-week military standoff with China have hit a roadblock, people briefed on the talks said, prompting Chinese state-run media to trumpet rhetoric of "unavoidable countermeasures" on the unmarked border.
China has insisted that India unilaterally withdraw its troops from the remote Doklam plateau claimed by both Beijing and Indian ally Bhutan.
But China did not respond to India's suggestion in the talks that it move its troops back 250 meters (820 ft) in return, said one source with close ties to Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government.
In the low-key diplomatic maneuvers that took place outside the public eye, the Chinese countered with an offer to move back 100 meters (328 ft), so long as they received clearance from top government officials.
But there has been no comeback since, except for China's mounting warnings of an escalation in the region, which it calls Donglang.
"It is a logjam, there is no movement at all now," said a second source with knowledge of the talks.
In Beijing, China's Foreign Ministry, which has repeatedly urged India to withdraw, did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the state of talks.
Indian troops went into Doklam in mid-June to stop a Chinese construction crew from extending a road India's military says will bring China's army too close for comfort in the northeast.
Their faceoff since, military experts say, is the most serious since going toe-to-toe in the 1980s, with thousands of soldiers each, elsewhere along the 3,500-km (2,175-mile) border.
China has held off going to war in the hope New Delhi would see reason, the state-run Global Times, which has kept up a barrage of hostile commentary, said on Tuesday.
"If the Narendra Modi government continues ignoring the warning coming from a situation spiraling out of control, countermeasures from China will be unavoidable," it said.
The border crisis caps a year of souring diplomatic ties between the Asian giants, even though trade between the fast growing economies is rising rapidly.
India has grown concerned at China's ties to its arch rival Pakistan, viewing their trade corridor across Kashmir as an infringement of its claim to the whole of the region.
Modi refused to join President Xi Jinping's signature Belt and Road initiative to knit together Asia and beyond, making India the lone country to boycott a summit in May.
China has warned New Delhi not to be drawn into a Western military alliance led by the United States and including Japan. Modi has sought closer ties with both.
SamuraiBlue
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Neither Japan or the US has any joint military alliance with India to mandate a joint response if PRC strikes.
On the other hand it would be a nice rationalization to develop a selected embargo against PRCas a response.
Basically PRC would need to weigh which would be more beneficial a war to maintain administration to nowhere to save face resulting to a possible embargo by the world or go through diplomatic channels to defuse the situation with small economic loss and partial loss of face depending on how the PR department is able to spin the news.
Hendrik_2000
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China weapon of choice in any conflict with India
Notice the precision strike mode and air burst mode
Here is the video taken from profile of chinese weapon designer a very interesting video I will posted latter
Live firing drill
Notice the precision strike mode and air burst mode
Here is the video taken from profile of chinese weapon designer a very interesting video I will posted latter
Live firing drill
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manqiangrexue
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Orrrrrrr the PRC can do whatever it sees fit against India and we can all watch Japan beg the US to do something while the US issues some statements denouncing China's actions but ultimately does nothing militarily or economically in consideration of its own welfare.
As for your wet dream embargo against China, Japan can go at it alone LOL. Please try and see what happens to Japan's economy. I mean, can it really get worse? What do you have to lose, right? LOL
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Dizasta1
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Could it be that Hindustan doesn't want the humiliation and is outright lying about the withdrawal of troops? We shall have to wait and see whether this is a sign of de-escalation from Hindustan. Irrespective of the nationalistic fervor, common sense dictates that it's beneficial for all sides to come to a peaceful resolution to the dispute and make amends. For if Hindustan truly wants prosperity, then it would choose to work with China and become a successful member of SCO. Peace in the region would translate into prosperity for the Continent of Asia.
Indian troops surrender to Chinese warnings
Following the stern warning issued by China to India, the latter has withdrawn troops from the bordering Doklam area late night close to Sunday morning and has left only 50 personnel in that area which means that Indian troops have finally surrendered to Chinese authorities and their genuine claim on the territory that India was unjustifiably declaring as ‘disputed territory’, The News has learnt from reliable sources.
The Chinese government had warned India against interference in the areas on the pretext of ‘disputed territory’ and had given mobilization orders to its troops for operations with the objective of putting an end to India’s interventionist designs on the basis of false pretexts and claims that stand far from reality.
China’s senior officials had also taken exception to the hegemonic conduct of New Delhi government which has “become habitual of treating the countries of South Asia as its satellites or low-category states.
But in case of China, India is certainly oblivious to the military power and preparedness of China and is totally mistaken about its own capabilities, taking encouragement probably from its growing links with some other powers of the world”. The conflict started when, a few weeks back, Indian troops trespassed on Chinese territory in the bordering region and tried to forcibly stop the Chinese officials from some construction and development works going on in that area.
Following the development of Sunday, Beijing has, however, insisted upon total withdrawal of Indian forces from the area, saying that even the presence of 50 Indian personnel in the area gives birth to doubts as if India was continuing with its negative designs that symbolise rigidity and negation of international norms of diplomacy, goodwill and good neighbourly ties.
thenews.com.pk/print/221901-Indian-troops-surrender-to-Chinese-warnings
Indian troops surrender to Chinese warnings
Following the stern warning issued by China to India, the latter has withdrawn troops from the bordering Doklam area late night close to Sunday morning and has left only 50 personnel in that area which means that Indian troops have finally surrendered to Chinese authorities and their genuine claim on the territory that India was unjustifiably declaring as ‘disputed territory’, The News has learnt from reliable sources.
The Chinese government had warned India against interference in the areas on the pretext of ‘disputed territory’ and had given mobilization orders to its troops for operations with the objective of putting an end to India’s interventionist designs on the basis of false pretexts and claims that stand far from reality.
China’s senior officials had also taken exception to the hegemonic conduct of New Delhi government which has “become habitual of treating the countries of South Asia as its satellites or low-category states.
But in case of China, India is certainly oblivious to the military power and preparedness of China and is totally mistaken about its own capabilities, taking encouragement probably from its growing links with some other powers of the world”. The conflict started when, a few weeks back, Indian troops trespassed on Chinese territory in the bordering region and tried to forcibly stop the Chinese officials from some construction and development works going on in that area.
Following the development of Sunday, Beijing has, however, insisted upon total withdrawal of Indian forces from the area, saying that even the presence of 50 Indian personnel in the area gives birth to doubts as if India was continuing with its negative designs that symbolise rigidity and negation of international norms of diplomacy, goodwill and good neighbourly ties.
thenews.com.pk/print/221901-Indian-troops-surrender-to-Chinese-warnings
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On an Pakistan website. A better title would be 'India's unconditional surrender to China' or something like that...
The information about India leaving some troops behind is well known for a long time and has nothing to do with overall image.
Why would the world embargo China? India invaded China, and China has full right to kick out the invaders. And as of right now, there is 0 nation on planet earth taking the side of India
By your logic, if China invaded Japan, and Japan defend itself, it's Japan's fault? And should the world embargo Japan?
Logic my friend, please use it.
Jura The idiot
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I guess it depends on how big force you would need; I figured the tactical situation on the other side was something like this (I posted the designations of the three Indian Brigades, X, previously here, won't bother with looking for that post):
Interesting time for US to promote India's role to permanent UN security councils . Here is my takes on this at this particular time.
From US perspective:
1. US is indirect showing support for India, BUT this also means US cannot support India directly because it acknowledge India's action in this situation.
1.1 US don't want India to gain seat at councils, and right now is the best time to bring it up, because due to this border invasion thing, there is no chance in hell India will get it.
1.2 US further create tension between India and others, US can says look India, I supported you, but other people veto it.
From China perspective:
2. China before never said it would support or against India's councils bid, because it won't want to seems to petty, but everyone knows China don't want India to join. But this time it present a good excuse for China to be against it.
2.1 China will veto it when it comes up, and it can use the excuse that, India is not fit to be on the councils, because its invading another nation, thus its not a mature/responsible power.
2.2 After this is all over, China can easily use this excuse for another 30 years or more each time India's bid comes up.
Anyway, very good for US lol, basically US is playing India like a fiddle, but yet, a masters stroke.
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