So does anyone know how Jimmy Lai's media arms are reporting US riots?
He said a few days ago:
I feel bad for laughing at this:
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So does anyone know how Jimmy Lai's media arms are reporting US riots?
Funnily enough, there are plenty of solidarity protests, from Canada to New Zealand.
Yet HK seems to be an outlier...
You support America/UK governments to the hilt.
You're accusing all HKPF members of being bad.
Beijing handled it badly? The fact that the protests went on for so long is hard undeniable proof that there is
1. No crackdown
2. Freedom of speech
3. Hands off approach by central government
Let's not pretend that life was so great and free under the British.
As someone mentioned, you can't pretend that this "treaty" is some kind of kind gesture. HK was taken by force and returned only by equal (potential) show of force.
I’m rather sick of hearing this kind of sanctimonious, moralizing BS about US/UK/democracy being somehow morally superior in some way, especially when it comes to HK.
So does anyone know how Jimmy Lai's media arms are reporting US riots?
It would be neat if those above scenes were shown. downtown HK. Right in the faces of those American flag carrying demonstrators.
That's losing the big picture, isn't it? That's like saying there are black people in Africa and black people in Sweden so it's all the same. Every policeman in Hong Kong has shown incredible restraint or there would be body bags piled to the ceiling from just one person properly defending himself from terrorists. If there are bad police in Hong Kong, they are the ones who tipped off the terrorists to avoiding the good police. On the other hand, America world famous for racist police brutality. Many many police in America have been filmed attacking demonstrators just sitting down and talking in just this protest alone. There is no equivalency here.No, I haven't. There are good and bad Hong Kong police, just like in the US.
The biggest problem with the governance and also the environment in Hong Kong is confusion. It's too complicated. Foreign judges, multiple parties, limited CCP power, large foreign (CIA) influence, it's a big mess. They need straight-forward governance with clear identity: You are Chinese, all your officials are Chinese, you answer to the CCP and we work together to make China the greatest power on earth. No other confusing narratives should be allowed to infect or poison people's minds, at least not at such a fragile stage in Hong Kong. It's ok for a mature person to be exposed to every way of thought and ugliness in the world, but Hong Kong is so immature, it would be like throwing a 5 year old into a den full of gangsters and drug dealers to see how he grows up. They're not ready now; they must be reeducated first.The protests have gone on for so long because so many people have been involved. The HK police can't lock up hundreds of thousands/millions of people. If a territory like Hong Kong has near-constant protests for such a long time it shows a complete failure of leadership and an absence of good governance.
If you want to argue it's primarily the fault of the Hong Kong government, Carrie Lam and the pro-CCP parties that have a majority of seats in the legislative, I'm willing to accept that. There is much to be said that Beijing has been mislead by special interest groups that want to maintain the status-quo and are resistant to things like abolishing the functional constituencies (because that's where most of their power resides).
However, the CCP is still partly responsible. It has intervened, such as in "interpreting" what a valid oath for a HK legislator is rather than leaving it to the Hong Kong courts, it's also publicly backed Carrie Lam to the hilt, when Beijing could have demanded her resignation for incompetence. Her head on a plate last year would have significantly increased the chances of most of the protesters going home.
That's only arguable for a foreigner or a Chinese person whose self respect has been completely destroyed. Nothing is good when your homeland is government by foreigners. All of Hong Kong's growth and economic success came from being linked to China; the British have no power to do anything for Hong Kong. The Brits gave Hong Kong this nonsense broken legal system and Hong Kongers protested all the same, but were met much more forcefully because Brits don't care about Chinese blood spilled while the CCP still sees the good Chinese people underneath the pathetic self-hating thugs that the British have turned them into.Arguably it was pretty good under British rule. The economy did really well, the city's growth seemed to have no end and there was high confidence in the police. People fled from mainland China to Hong Kong, rather than the other way around. We also gave Hong Kong rule of law. Just because there weren't elections for the governor didn't mean there wasn't a high degree of freedom in Hong Kong. (As an aside, if the governor had been elected Hong Kong wouldn't have been a colony, rather it would have been an independent city-state.)
Also, whether or not the protesters actually think colonial Hong Kong was better has nothing to do whether they have any valid grievances.
Do you know who Deng Xiaoping is? Deng Xiaoping would have sent in the tanks to put Hong Kong in its place. The only insult to him is that the terrorists are still alive after committing all the violent crimes that they did. There is no respect in China or in me for Zhao Ziyang.Also I think you're insulting the memories of the CCP politicians like Deng Xiaoping and Zhao Ziyang who created the Sino-British Joint Declaration in the first place.
First of all, who promised 50 years? Not Xi Jinping, I'm sure. If Trump can tear up all the old contracts his predecessors signed, then why can't Xi?The issue is what the CCP promised for 50 years. If China's promises don't mean anything because they can be reversed on a whim, well fine, but don't complain if people start saying China isn't trustworthy.
I know this is not real, but I've been told this is very similar to the Apple daily's news coverage of the US situation. Apparently, the thugs are very confused, because, let's face It, the thugs all got phones and can see what we see. They just don't know what to do!
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First of all, who promised 50 years? Not Xi Jinping, I'm sure. If Trump can tear up all the old contracts his predecessors signed, then why can't Xi?
And 50 years is assuming that things are relatively stable. If they turn into Somalia, China's not supposed to ignore it like some disgusting leftovers in tupperware only to be opened 50 years later to see what kind of bloody hell things have become. Your 50 years is nullified by chaos and the destruction of law, as we've clearly seen. After the total mess that the British left, Hong Kong clearly needs China now; the Chinese people in Hong Kong need China.