Hong-Kong Protests

Temstar

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LMAO look at this crap

I don't know where she gets all this nonsense. Is there some sort of "posts to degrade china" chat group that she's in?
Drawing on maps is well know pass time for all flavors of Chinese separatist, it's what you do when you have delusions of grandeur but don't have an answer when someone asks the important question "with you and who's army?" For good example look no further than across the strait at KMT:
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The Chinese term for this odd behavior is called "地图开疆"
 

tygyg1111

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LMAO look at this crap

I don't know where she gets all this nonsense. Is there some sort of "posts to degrade china" chat group that she's in?

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"Donna Wong" irl

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emblem21

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LMAO look at this crap

I don't know where she gets all this nonsense. Is there some sort of "posts to degrade china" chat group that she's in?
As a pure blooded Chinese, I have an extreme desire to do extreme violence but then again, I should take pleasure that it isn’t China that is going to be divided into pieces but it is going to the nation she idolises so much, the USA and UK, plus if she misbehaves enough, she can despair at the fact that she is going to amount to nothing in the coming days not to mention suffer the same fate as Joshua Wong and if she thinks about running away to be with Nathan, then she should know that the UK is about to be in a world of hurt. So she should STFU and be happy she is in a nation that has all its bases covered
 

measuredingabens

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LMAO look at this crap

I don't know where she gets all this nonsense. Is there some sort of "posts to degrade china" chat group that she's in?
Ah, yes. A healthy dose of genocide and ethnic cleansing. I think that map likely came from one of the map subreddits. Those places are swamped with racists and genocidal bigots. Maps like those gather thousands of upvotes every time they are posted.
 

Heresy

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As a pure blooded Chinese, I have an extreme desire to do extreme violence but then again, I should take pleasure that it isn’t China that is going to be divided into pieces but it is going to the nation she idolises so much, the USA and UK, plus if she misbehaves enough, she can despair at the fact that she is going to amount to nothing in the coming days not to mention suffer the same fate as Joshua Wong and if she thinks about running away to be with Nathan, then she should know that the UK is about to be in a world of hurt. So she should STFU and be happy she is in a nation that has all its bases covered

There's no need to get your hands dirty like that. If she actually does live in Hong Kong, track her down and report her to the Hong Kong Police for violating the NSL. If she's actually a minor, I'm sure her parents, and relatives might catch some well-deserved flak as well.
 

FriedButter

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Ah, yes. A healthy dose of genocide and ethnic cleansing. I think that map likely came from one of the map subreddits. Those places are swamped with racists and genocidal bigots. Maps like those gather thousands of upvotes every time they are posted.

The map is pure stupidity anyway. Why is there 2 buffer zones in places that accomplishes nothing and if this is supposedly about splitting China then why does Japan own a large part of Siberia.
 

measuredingabens

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The map is pure stupidity anyway. Why is there 2 buffer zones in places that accomplishes nothing and if this is supposedly about splitting China then why does Japan own a large part of Siberia.
Welcome to Reddit's obsession with balkanizing China. The maps they draw tend to be any combination of poorly researched, bigoted and some measure of genocidal. Never mind the fact that any such attempt would almost certainly result in global nuclear holocaust.
 

Jianguo

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Actually, most Native North Americans (that is both USA and Canada) were displaced by war. Very few were relocated peacefully. They would have been lucky to be relocated the way you described.
They were definitely relocated that way. The vast majority were killed first, most of the rest were herded into Indian Reservations / concentration camps, but the holdouts were absolutely duped into the Reservations the way I described. The RCMP did this to many of the holdouts and the mixed families who lived outside the reservations in the 19th century. By the 20th century, many Native Indians lived outside the reservations but even then the RCMP would do things like dupe the parents into sending their children off to free schools only for the children to be forcefully sent to boarding schools to "Kill the Indian in the child". There were a few such boarding schools found to have mass graves with hundreds of bodies on the school grounds last year. The Canadian government did not investigate the rest of the boarding schools because of fear there would be more such mass graves discovered.


You are putting too much weight into these kinds of HKers. The reality is that, they are a minority, a sizable minority, but still the minority.
Since we are mostly English speaking here, we are probably primarily consuming English media. If we are speaking the language of the colonizers, is it any surprise that collaborators seem like they have the loudest voice?

What you are describing is actually the insidious after effects of colonization. You are describing the system of how the English maintained power over the people. 80%+ of the population does not speak English as their primary language, yet all the laws are written primarily in English. Thus all administrative officials must learn English fluently, so they are likely going to be educated in those kinds of schools.
China has controlled HK for roughly 20 years, Britain had over 99 years to do this damage. Things will take time.
The situation actually got far worse after 1997, not better. HK left British control 25 years ago. That's a full generation and far too long a time to have allowed these clearly foreign supported anti-China organizations to exist. I understand One Country, Two Systems was designed to facilitate Taiwan's eventual peaceful reunification. However, allowing HK to become the headquarters of foreign anti-China NGOs and local secessionists was simply stupid of Beijing. From the 1990s onward, anti-China forces already started planning and conspiring to destabilize HK. Instead of fixing this problem, Beijing was too busy trying to placate the HK business community with sweetheart deals where they could get into investments on the ground floor while ignoring the rot going on with foreign inspired insurrection movements. You would think that after the 2014 protests, that the local HK authorities would at least investigate why so many youths were involved? It's only now that the NSL is in place that something is being done about the education system. I'm not pinning all the blame on Beijing, but we have to admit they did a bad job with HK until recently.
 

56860

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They were definitely relocated that way. The vast majority were killed first, most of the rest were herded into Indian Reservations / concentration camps, but the holdouts were absolutely duped into the Reservations the way I described. The RCMP did this to many of the holdouts and the mixed families who lived outside the reservations in the 19th century. By the 20th century, many Native Indians lived outside the reservations but even then the RCMP would do things like dupe the parents into sending their children off to free schools only for the children to be forcefully sent to boarding schools to "Kill the Indian in the child". There were a few such boarding schools found to have mass graves with hundreds of bodies on the school grounds last year. The Canadian government did not investigate the rest of the boarding schools because of fear there would be more such mass graves discovered.



The situation actually got far worse after 1997, not better. HK left British control 25 years ago. That's a full generation and far too long a time to have allowed these clearly foreign supported anti-China organizations to exist. I understand One Country, Two Systems was designed to facilitate Taiwan's eventual peaceful reunification. However, allowing HK to become the headquarters of foreign anti-China NGOs and local secessionists was simply stupid of Beijing. From the 1990s onward, anti-China forces already started planning and conspiring to destabilize HK. Instead of fixing this problem, Beijing was too busy trying to placate the HK business community with sweetheart deals where they could get into investments on the ground floor while ignoring the rot going on with foreign inspired insurrection movements. You would think that after the 2014 protests, that the local HK authorities would at least investigate why so many youths were involved? It's only now that the NSL is in place that something is being done about the education system. I'm not pinning all the blame on Beijing, but we have to admit they did a bad job with HK until recently.
I think a significant portion of CPC leadership was still harboring under the delusion of peaceful reunification with Taiwan -- the logic being that a hands-off approach to Hong Kong would placate Taiwan into 1C2S.

Peaceful reunification is all but a dead dream.
 

BMUFL

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I think a significant portion of CPC leadership was still harboring under the delusion of peaceful reunification with Taiwan -- the logic being that a hands-off approach to Hong Kong would placate Taiwan into 1C2S.

Peaceful reunification is all but a dead dream.
Well, peaceful reunification takes on many forms. There is the RoC willingly initiate peace talk to finally end the civil war, and everyone at the end is happy with rainbow and unicorns. Obviously, for various reasons, that is never going to happen. So there is another flavour where Taiwan's economy tanks and has become utterly and absolutely dependent on mainland, and is therefore forced onto the negotiating table. Now, while this scenario is slightly more attainable, there are a lot of confounding factors, the most significant of which starts with an U and end with an S. Of course, armed reunification is the worst case scenario, and may well be the start of WWIII.

And to bring it back to Hong Kong. I am going to state an unpopular opinion here. As bad as the 1C2S and the 2019 riot was, it could have been a lot worse. Without 1C2S, China's growth would have been a lot more stunted. Even worse, it may well have bought China into armed conflict with US. While PLA of today can probably delete any US asset within 100 nautical miles of Chinese coast line, that was not the case back in the day. And if the US, given the weakness of PLA of old, collectively decide that Hong Kong needs some "democracy" and "freedom" because of lack of 1C2S, there is no telling what would have happened.

Of course, there are no what-ifs in real world, so we have to work with what we have. So, how to make this system work, at least until the alleged deadline of 2047? I suppose is where we get into constitutional theory, which is way beyond me.

The braindead takes of the ignorant make me lose faith in humanity on a daily basis. Fk it, add it onto the pile. Clearly this person has never talked to any Natives. No violence my ass.
 
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