Hong-Kong Protests

Tyler

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Lol people still believe that the UK - China has benefits on cooperation.

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So UK just declared China is breaching an international agreement and on the G7 meeting which the UK wanted to change it to D10 (alliance of democracies - 10 Democratic countries) it inserted into the releases statement the following


And lets not forget that some small parts of the UK defence review said it wanted to focus on the Indo-Pacific ("rules based order" "free trade" bla bla) and it would explore overseas basing of UK naval assets in Australia, Japan or Singapore.
Very cooperative UK and sure is a neutral country, right?...

Now I am not saying that diplomatic contact must be cut off but in the next 10 years Xi should go and make a deal with Argentina for dealing with these small Taiwan-style islands.

However the best part comes tomorrow when the full defence review from UK is released. It is going to be fun watching all these people thinking that the UK is neutral. As I said UK has unofficially joined the Quad.
The UK is sending their CV to the SCS. Is China going to escort them through the region?
 

supersnoop

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Interesting news today
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Central government declaring HK housing prices are an issue that needs to be dealt with.

This is going against long standing policy of standing aside on these kinds of issues.

Should the central government make good on this declaration and ultimately implement some kind of policy to address housing prices, it both infringes on local government autonomy, but also addressing a long standing issue affecting the citizens of HK.

It could be all talk. The local government COULD get its crap together and do something first. For all the talk of 'crushing democracy and freedom', the one thing that hasn't been crushed is western-style endless debate where it is endlessly explained how it is impossible to get something done, instead of doing anything, even if just a little. I don't even live in HK, and I can rattle off the top of my head a few projects that still haven't moved... Kai Tak runway development, Lantau Tomorrow, New Territories farmland development, purchasing old British Army barracks from PLA...
 

Tyler

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Interesting news today
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Central government declaring HK housing prices are an issue that needs to be dealt with.

This is going against long standing policy of standing aside on these kinds of issues.

Should the central government make good on this declaration and ultimately implement some kind of policy to address housing prices, it both infringes on local government autonomy, but also addressing a long standing issue affecting the citizens of HK.

It could be all talk. The local government COULD get its crap together and do something first. For all the talk of 'crushing democracy and freedom', the one thing that hasn't been crushed is western-style endless debate where it is endlessly explained how it is impossible to get something done, instead of doing anything, even if just a little. I don't even live in HK, and I can rattle off the top of my head a few projects that still haven't moved... Kai Tak runway development, Lantau Tomorrow, New Territories farmland development, purchasing old British Army barracks from PLA...
The Kai Tak runway is booming with residential construction. The cruise seaport has opened many years ago,

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supersnoop

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The Kai Tak runway is booming with residential construction. The cruise seaport has opened many years ago,

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Isn't there a third phase or something being held up? I do know there is a lot of development that already happened. I saw the cruise ship terminal last time I went. There used to be a Go-Kart track or something there too, but that's definitely gone now.
 

KYli

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Isn't there a third phase or something being held up? I do know there is a lot of development that already happened. I saw the cruise ship terminal last time I went. There used to be a Go-Kart track or something there too, but that's definitely gone now.
Land reclamation in Kai Tak was banned due to an environmental law that got passed in 1999. It makes little sense not to develop Kai Tak and land reclamation in the area. Kai Tak ends up with low rise buildings that mostly cater to the wealthy that want ocean view.

The third phase was delayed at least 3 years. They are looking for completion in 2023 which I doubt is possible.
 

voyager1

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Land reclamation in Kai Tak was banned due to an environmental law that got passed in 1999. It makes little sense not to develop Kai Tak and land reclamation in the area. Kai Tak ends up with low rise buildings that mostly cater to the wealthy that want ocean view.

The third phase was delayed at least 3 years. They are looking for completion in 2023 which I doubt is possible.
Lmao who are these people who are taking these decisions. Imagine letting "environment concerns" prevent you from providing housing and economic prospects to people who are in clear need of.

Hong Kong should steamroll these wrong headed people and start constructing houses ASAP. It is criminal that for so long the government has dragged out in performing its basic responsibilities.
 

KYli

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Lmao who are these people who are taking these decisions. Imagine letting "environment concerns" prevent you from providing housing and economic prospects to people who are in clear need of.

Hong Kong should steamroll these wrong headed people and start constructing houses ASAP. It is criminal that for so long the government has dragged out in performing its basic responsibilities.
It has been like that ever since the handover. There are literally no land reclamation since 1999. Before the handover, majority of the new districts in Hong Kong come from land reclamation. After the handover, those morons in the government were hijacked by the environmentalists, real estate tycoons, and liberals and decide to ban land reclamation.

If you have been to Hong Kong, you would see how insane this is. Most middle and low income households were living in 300-500 sq feet apartments but those elites think protecting the environment is more important. Of course, environmental issues are probably an excuse for them to keep the supply low and housing price high. In addition, most of the farmland near Shenzhen were all bought up by the 4 real estate tycoons that mean the government has no alternative to increase land supply unless paying ridiculous amount of money to purchase farmland from these elites.

That's why Lantau Tomorrow is so important. The central government has basically told Carrie Lam to get it done and made housing more affordable.
 

AndrewS

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It has been like that ever since the handover. There are literally no land reclamation since 1999. Before the handover, majority of the new districts in Hong Kong come from land reclamation. After the handover, those morons in the government were hijacked by the environmentalists, real estate tycoons, and liberals and decide to ban land reclamation.

If you have been to Hong Kong, you would see how insane this is. Most middle and low income households were living in 300-500 sq feet apartments but those elites think protecting the environment is more important. Of course, environmental issues are probably an excuse for them to keep the supply low and housing price high. In addition, most of the farmland near Shenzhen were all bought up by the 4 real estate tycoons that mean the government has no alternative to increase land supply unless paying ridiculous amount of money to purchase farmland from these elites.

That's why Lantau Tomorrow is so important. The central government has basically told Carrie Lam to get it done and made housing more affordable.

The elites don't think protecting the environment is important.

What they want is to keep the supply of housing low, so that land/property prices increase even more.

Plus I also think it's crazy to have Hong Kong golf courses on flat land next to the train stations
 

Tyler

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Land reclamation in Kai Tak was banned due to an environmental law that got passed in 1999. It makes little sense not to develop Kai Tak and land reclamation in the area. Kai Tak ends up with low rise buildings that mostly cater to the wealthy that want ocean view.

The third phase was delayed at least 3 years. They are looking for completion in 2023 which I doubt is possible.
The farmlands owned by the major Hong Kong tycoons, should now be rezoned into residential lands. These tycoons should be made to make concessions to the government, before they are allowed to build apartments on those farmlands.

Lands around Kai Tak airport should be allowed to be rebuilt with higher density, as the buildings height no longer affects air traffic.
 
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