Hong-Kong Protests

Gatekeeper said:

Don't get me wrong, I don't entirely disagreeing with you. It just that Hong Kong was first and foremost entreport. Then it transform itself to a cheap manufacturing base. In the 1950s to 1970s. All plastic toys have a made in Hong Kong stamp on it. I know I have made enough of those as a very young child to last anyone a life time.

From 1980s on wards, it transform itself to a major financial centre. A gateway where east meets the West. In the past 20 years it transform again to a tourist destination.

Now the future is uncertain thanks to those condoms being used and discarded now game is up.

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Like to think with tense relations with America, an ongoing trade war (hopefully goes away under a Biden administration), as well as the de-coupling of our economies that the Hong Kong Stock Exchange in cohesion with the Shanghai Stock Exchange will play major roles in China's future.

It's absolutely grim and depressing to think I won't be able to afford to buy my own property if/when I moved back home, but I wouldn't say Hong Kong's best days are gone.

crash8pilot said:

It's absolutely grim and depressing to think I won't be able to afford to buy my own property if/when I moved back home, but I wouldn't say Hong Kong's best days are gone.

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I thought you was an original indigenous Hong longer? If so, you should have the right to build houses (if farm land is still available in Tai Wei.)

Where As I, being the indigenous Hong Konger from Fo Tan have that right. But no land left. So I might sell that right. Plus our ancestral home has gone to my elder brother as agreed because he's the only one of the brothers left living in Hong Kong. When I return for visit, I can stay with him. But it's not the same.

Hong Kong house prices gone absolutely crazy.

Another "peace loving demonstrator" according to some members here. Or to normal people, a Condom thug been identify wieding a hammer. Hopefully arrest to follow.

Phead128 said:

Let me clarify.

Half of HK's population needs to move into mainland for better economic opportunities because channeling funds is mostly computer-driven by major banks. The lucrative senior finance bankers are increasingly 60-30 mainlanders as opposed to native HKers, and there are not enough finance jobs available for entire HK population.

Prior to riots, I would argue that Tourism could sustain a large portion of population, but with that destroyed due to riots/pandemic, can property speculation and finance prop up a 7.5 million population? It's a recipe for civil unrest.

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To be fair Hong Kong can pivot it's employment market. Hong Kong youths can be toilet cleaners, office sweepers, and pantry restockers for the Mainland Chinese investment bankers now employed in Hong Kong banks. There's nothing worse than being a servant to someone you're racist against.

Gatekeeper said:

I thought you was an original indigenous Hong longer? If so, you should have the right to build houses (if farm land is still available in Tai Wei.)

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Didn't bother with the paperwork before I left home, my grandfather made it sound like a long shot for them to approve what little land is left in Hong Kong (or Tai Wai for that fact) for me to build a house. My parents still kept my room around, so at least I have a bed to sleep in when I visit.... Just not sure how I feel about that as I edge closer to my 30s, and a move back East becomes permanent lol

Gatekeeper said:

Hong Kong house prices gone absolutely crazy.

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I'm hopeful that with Hong Kong's integration into the Greater Bay Area concept that prices would gradually trend downwards. Since the handover, too much focus has been placed on the "two systems" aspect of "one country two systems". I might be suckered into CCP propaganda, but I do sincerely believe that going forward an emphasis on "one country" would pay dividends to the people of Hong Kong. Property prices in Shenzhen and Guangzhou are quite reasonable, so hopefully integration into the Greater Bay Area would see property prices in Hong Kong brought to more of an equilibrium.

US up to their tricks with sanctions imposed on 4 Chinese/Hong Kong nationals.

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美宣布制裁4中港官員 包括李桂華鄧中華等
2020-11-10 06:53

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美國國務院周一宣布，制裁4名通過港區國安法壓制香港異見人士的香港及內地官員，包括香港警務處國家安全處高級警司李桂華、警務處副處長劉賜蕙、國安公署副署長李江舟、國務院港澳辦副主任鄧中華。

美國國務卿蓬佩奧發表聲明表示，該4人執行港區國安法，威脅香港和平、安全與自治。他們持續破壞香港的自治與自由，出於政治目的拘捕市民。他又指，李江舟所屬的駐港國安公署是依據港區國安法成立，鄧中華所屬的港澳辦則採取諸多作為，干涉香港事務並鎮壓示威群眾。

蓬佩奧指，有關官員將禁止入境美國，他們在美國的資產將受到凍結。他強調，美國今天採取的行動，彰顯美方對扼殺香港人民自由、破壞香港自治人士究責的決心，呼籲北京履行在「中英聯合聲明」中所做出的國際承諾。

美國8月曾宣布制裁香港特首林鄭月娥、警務處長鄧炳強、中國港澳辦主任夏寶龍、港澳辦副主任張曉明、中聯辦主任駱惠寧，及國安公署署長鄭雁雄等11名香港及內地官員。

crash8pilot said:

I'm hopeful that with Hong Kong's integration into the Greater Bay Area concept that prices would gradually trend downwards. Since the handover, too much focus has been placed on the "two systems" aspect of "one country two systems". I might be suckered into CCP propaganda, but I do sincerely believe that going forward an emphasis on "one country" would pay dividends to the people of Hong Kong. Property prices in Shenzhen and Guangzhou are quite reasonable, so hopefully integration into the Greater Bay Area would see property prices in Hong Kong brought to more of an equilibrium.

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If there's one thing I strongly respect about the CPC, when they say they are doing something they will absolutely do it, which is far more than what the western political types ever do, and this is from my own political observations of many years.

Those toothless sanctions from the US scare no one. China is the one who is now calling the shot and in charge.

• Legislators unseated with immediate effect are Civic Party’s Alvin Yeung Ngok-kiu, Kwok Ka-ki and Dennis Kwok, alongside Kenneth Leung of the Professionals Guild
• Hong Kong government confirms lawmakers’ removal within minutes of NPCSC resoluti giving local authorities the power to unseat politicians

Four Hong Kong opposition lawmakers have been disqualified with immediate effect after China’s top legislative body passed a resolution giving local authorities the power to unseat filibustering politicians without having to go through the city’s courts.
The unseated legislators are the Civic Party’s Alvin Yeung Ngok-kiu, Kwok Ka-ki and Dennis Kwok, alongside Kenneth Leung of the Professionals Guild, who were earlier banned from running in the Legislative Council elections, before the polls were postponed until September next year.

A National People’s Congress Standing Committee (NPCSC) resolution revealed by the state-run Xinhua news agency on Wednesday stipulated that lawmakers would immediately lose their seats if they were ruled to have promoted or supported the notion of Hong Kong independence, refused to endorse the country’s resumption of sovereignty over the city, sought foreign forces to meddle in the city’s affairs or engaged in acts that jeopardise national security.



Opposition lawmakers say they will resign all at once if any one of them is unseated. Photo: Dickson Lee

Four Hong Kong opposition lawmakers have been disqualified with immediate effect after China’s top legislative body passed a resolution giving local authorities the power to unseat filibustering politicians without having to go through the city’s courts.
The unseated legislators are the Civic Party’s Alvin Yeung Ngok-kiu, Kwok Ka-ki and Dennis Kwok, alongside Kenneth Leung of the Professionals Guild, who were earlier banned from running in the Legislative Council elections, before the polls were postponed until September next year.

A National People’s Congress Standing Committee (NPCSC) resolution revealed by the state-run Xinhua news agency on Wednesday stipulated that lawmakers would immediately lose their seats if they were ruled to have promoted or supported the notion of Hong Kong independence, refused to endorse the country’s resumption of sovereignty over the city, sought foreign forces to meddle in the city’s affairs or engaged in acts that jeopardise national security.

KYli said:

China is the one who is now calling the shot and in charge.

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Indeed. The opinions of HK residents no longer matter. It doesn't matter if a candidate can somehow navigate the registration process without being labelled a "separatist" or "not respecting the Basic Law" and then get elected with 100% of the vote. The CCP can just say "don't like you" and immediately they will no longer be a lawmaker.

In some ways this is helpful. CCP apologists in Hong Kong can no longer pretend it's possible for critics of Beijing to participate in Hong Kong politics so long as they're "moderate". The mandate of HK legislators no longer comes from HK people but the CCP. The CCP can remove a legislator on a whim, and there's no judicial oversight. In that respect HK is now little different from mainland China, so people should stop pretending otherwise.

Mr T said:

In that respect HK is now little different from mainland China, so people should stop pretending otherwise.

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That's the way it always should have been.