Hong-Kong Protests

Gatekeeper

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They weren't Triads, that's just Western propaganda. They were just regular folk trying to protect their businesses and livelihoods.
You know that, I know that, and I think he knows that. But he is just performing mind gymnastics to paint the locals as the bad guys for defending their livelihood. He is really clutching at straws.

My brother's wife's family comes from the local village. And all of them are grateful that they are able to firm groups that drives out these thugs.
 

daifo

Captain
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I guess it helps when Triad members aren't roaming subway stations and beating up random people. :)

By the way, have any of them been convicted over the Yuen Long attack yet? I mean, it's only been more than a year.

Since you love the western system so much, why are you complaining about the slow pace? Its pretty common for criminal cases to take years. Considering the huge flux of rioters clogging the hk system, its not a surprise that the system would be even slower.
 

Mr T

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They weren't Triads, that's just Western propaganda. They were just regular folk trying to protect their businesses and livelihoods.

So the fact they magically turned up in the same place, at the same time, all wearing the same sorts of clothes, being armed with weapons and without leaving an obvious digital footprint that the police could have seen beforehand to know to deploy officers to the station to protect civilians doesn't ring any alarm bells?

Ok.

How about the fact that the HK police themselves believed the Triads were involved?

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Force insiders told the Post they believed more than 100 attackers wielding wooden sticks and metal rods, including members of the 14K and Wo Shing Wo triad gangs, were involved in terrorising protesters and passers-by on Sunday night, following a mass anti-government march.

“We have a list of suspects in connection with the violent attacks. Anti-triad officers will soon launch an arrest operation in the district,” one source said on Monday.

The dozens of assailants identified by police in connection with the rampant attack in Yuen Long MTR station included a Wo Shing Wo faction leader, whose nickname is “Yat Poon Tsai”, according to the source. He was said to hold the rank of “red-pole fighter”, a senior triad member who acts as an enforcer. The other suspect, whose alias is “Dou Kai Hok”, is a village head in Yuen Long, who is believed to be a 14K triad member.

The Post was told that an attempt to set up a Lennon Wall in Yuen Long might have sparked the violence. The walls in public spaces are decorated with messages and drawings in support of anti-government demonstrations.

The source said there were several outbreaks of conflict between Yuen Long gangsters and extradition bill protesters last week. “Yuen Long gangsters had warned that they would give protesters a lesson if they dared to come again,” he said.


As I said to Hendrick, you chaps are very hot on people obeying the law. Please tell me how these gangsters were defending their "businesses" by indiscriminately attacking people on the way home and why that was justified when you don't like it when people riot against the people or institutions you support.
 

Hendrik_2000

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You can consider it as militia Even enshrined in US constitution here is the definition. There is such thing as Citizen arrest!
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  • Unorganized militia – comprising the reserve militia: every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age, not a member of the National Guard or Naval Militia.
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You can consider it as militia Even enshrined in US constitution here is the definition. There is such thing as Citizen arrest!
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I've given up debating with the man from the A team. @Hendrik_2000 you have got the patients of a saint.

Anyway, so a group all dressed in white is considered a uniform. Whereas thugs dressed in black waving flags is not. Furthermore some of these thugs also masquerading as journalists, medics and even priest. And are hiding being masked up faces is perfectly fine according to our man from the A-team.
Couple with the facts they are from outside the area with the intention of causing as much disruption to the local populace as possible is also perfectly fine to his mind. ( the gymnastic performance here is worthy of Olga korbet's Olympic performance of a perfect 10).
And after causing chaos to the local populace, they heard the locals were getting together to "sort" them out. They decided to upsticks and run. The fact they got to the station and cornered and took a beating. That's what our member from the A-Team is upset about.

He kept on about the rule of law to us. But when the thugs breaks all the law under the sun including murder. He's totally fine with that. Figures.
 
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supersnoop

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Chechen(s) behead a teacher in France.

Maybe accepting troublemakers is not such a good idea?

Not to say all chechens are bad people, just that the west loves these kinds of political immigration games and inevitably let in a lot of bad apples.

I think the 5 eyes countries are dreaming of a 97 style exodus, free capital, educated people, etc. Dream on!
 

Nobonita Barua

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Chechen(s) behead a teacher in France.

Maybe accepting troublemakers is not such a good idea?
That works fine as long as the real trouble makers don't go around exporting human rights.
From the incident, to me it was the teacher that was trouble maker in chief.
And when immigration to land of French fries are in question, I doubt Africans will feel thrilled about it after what they lost.
 

Mr T

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You can consider it as militia Even enshrined in US constitution

Militias are not legal in Hong Kong or mainland China - unless you want to say that the mobsters at the subway station were sanctioned by the CCP or HK government.

If HK protesters have to follow the law then I see no reason why gangsters should be able to do what they want.

Chechen(s) behead a teacher in France.

I'm not sure what a Muslim extremist in France has to do with Hong Kong.

Maybe accepting troublemakers is not such a good idea? Not to say all chechens are bad people, just that the west loves these kinds of political immigration games and inevitably let in a lot of bad apples.

Well France has signed up to the UN Refugee Convention so they're obliged to take in people seeking asylum, unless they're clearly not refugees. Do you really think the Chechen teenager said he wanted to murder people when his family claimed asylum? Even if it had been in his heart he would have kept that a secret.
 

Nobonita Barua

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I'm not sure what a Muslim extremist in France has to do with Hong Kong.
Everything.
An extremist is extremist regardless of the reasons. Freedom extremism right now is bigger threat than any other form of extremism.
Anything excessive is counter productive.

I am pretty sure that Chechen guy didn't know that teacher would do something like that.
 

Gatekeeper

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If HK protesters have to follow the law then I see no reason why gangsters should be able to do what they want.

There you have it guys. The mind gymnastics at it's best. Over the 12 months of chaos and unrest. When have we have seen the thugs follow any law!? They beat fellow classmates, they intimidate police chief's daughter, they tried to derailed trains, they throw large items of bridges (an act of mass murder). They even burn people, and murder by stoning poor uncle Law to death.

Yep. In his mind, they are law abiding citizens. That takes some mind gymnastics of the Nadia Comaneci and Nellie Kim vintage variety.
 
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