Hong-Kong Protests


KYli

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Guys you give HK too much importance. I don't feel proud to be from HK anymore. China and its 1.4 billion people shouldn't be slowed down by a few treasonous idiots in HK. Imposed NSL, round up the idiots, and don't get UK/US use HK as a pawn to undermine China.
As much as HK as being a nuisance. Hong Kong is still part of China. And Hong Kong people are still Chinese. The central government wouldn't like to see HK falls off from a cliff. That's why China is still going to send teams of medical professionals to HK and help HK fight the pandemic. I think what is being done right now is to stabilize HK and make sure HK couldn't stage another major protests or being a staging ground for anti-China activities. Until the Western powers played all of their best cards in HK, the central government wouldn't take its eyes off from HK yet. Although Taiwan situation should flare up pretty soon. It would be interesting years ahead.
 

Bltizo

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As I said before prior the handover Hongkong has no say whatsoever in running the government or appointing chief executive officer. They have better deal than british colonial power but they abused the privilege.

You see freedom come with responsibility but sadly honkie only know the first part and disregard the 2nd part. With constant rioting, demonstration, burning the subway station, Vandalizing the substation, store, beating people disrupting traffic, they lost their privilege to be treated as an adult now go back to kinder garden time They have to be told what to do and lost the privilege to decide for themselves. That is what they want that is what they get
For the record, I consider "Hongkie" to be another one of those unnecessary pejorative words.
On the one hand it isn't quite as severe as "roach" but at the same time, consider this a warning going forwards to avoid using these terms.
 

Gatekeeper

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Great news from SCMP. This should send a message for these law breakers. They gave no where to hide except the West.

Which lead to another question, are their extridiction arrangements with the West? Would the West comply? And what are the consequences for not complying? This is whole new ball game.

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National security law: Hong Kong police seek activist Nathan Law and 5 others for inciting secession and collusion, insider says

Law and others deny charges, which would be first issued against individuals outside Hong KongEven if those charged are not extradited to Hong Kong, ‘the move can help send a high-profile message to them or others’, a police source says

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Bltizo

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Following on from the completely reasonable delay of the elections for a year,
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that LegCo's term might be extended for a year, but that it was up to Beijing. Well I think we know what Beijing will say, Lam doesn't do anything these days without instructions from Big Papa Bear.

I'm sure that this period will absolutely not be used to bring in legislation to foster pro-CCP propaganda in Hong Kong, further restrict the activities of the media, give time to prosecute Opposition politicians under the national security legislation for being a thorn in the CCP's side, or otherwise ban politicial parties/politicians for daring to become popular and challenge the pro-CCP establishment in HK.

Great times ahead!
Unironically, I think you'll find people here agreeing -- "yes".

In politics and geopolitics no one wants conflict, everyone wants peace, they just want peace on their terms.

For Hong Kong, if the creation of the new political norm is that the populace and politicians will gradually come to understand and respect the Chinese government's red lines and recognize that loyalty to the central government and respect of its political and geopolitical concerns are a prerequisite for a political career, then I think that is something many here would welcome.
After all, that way it would achieve the goal that Hong Kong is not allowed to achieve more political autonomy than what the central government is willing to bestow, while simultaneously meaning Hong Kong will not become an enclave of foreign supported political activity that can challenge the central government.



The goal is to achieve a Hong Kong which is peaceful, with greater economic integration with the mainland to achieve a better economic for the entire region as well as Hong Kong, and also to achieve a Hong Kong that is underpinned by genuine recognition and loyalty to the PRC and the central government as well by virtue of their own choice.

Those are the terms of peace that the Chinese government and dare I say the Chinese people seek for Hong Kong.


If the ability to oppose or to undermine the authority of the central government, and to work with foreign government figures is a key plank and desire for the opposition, that is fine, but their words and actions will be scrutinized in the context of the above and going forwards treason will be called treason, and collusion will be called collusion.
 

weig2000

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Unironically, I think you'll find people here agreeing -- "yes".

In politics and geopolitics no one wants conflict, everyone wants peace, they just want peace on their terms.

For Hong Kong, if the creation of the new political norm is that the populace and politicians will gradually come to understand and respect the Chinese government's red lines and recognize that loyalty to the central government and respect of its political and geopolitical concerns are a prerequisite for a political career, then I think that is something many here would welcome.
After all, that way it would achieve the goal that Hong Kong is not allowed to achieve more political autonomy than what the central government is willing to bestow, while simultaneously meaning Hong Kong will not become an enclave of foreign supported political activity that can challenge the central government.



The goal is to achieve a Hong Kong which is peaceful, with greater economic integration with the mainland to achieve a better economic for the entire region as well as Hong Kong, and also to achieve a Hong Kong that is underpinned by genuine recognition and loyalty to the PRC and the central government as well by virtue of their own choice.

Those are the terms of peace that the Chinese government and dare I say the Chinese people seek for Hong Kong.


If the ability to oppose or to undermine the authority of the central government, and to work with foreign government figures is a key plank and desire for the opposition, that is fine, but their words and actions will be scrutinized in the context of the above and going forwards treason will be called treason, and collusion will be called collusion.
Very well put. This is the hard truth and the new reality that much of the Hong Kong opposition, localists, rioters/gangsters/"pro-democracy fighters" have never been able to come to terms with. Their starting point and baseline have been Hong Kong is practically an independent city-state that almost has nothing to do with PRC except maybe the latter has sovereignty only in name. If you check their words and behaviors, they pretty much all based on such a premise, at least implicitly. Witness Mr. T's statements in this thread.

And they're wrong.
 

emblem21

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Very well put. This is the hard truth and the new reality that much of the Hong Kong opposition, localists, rioters/gangsters/"pro-democracy fighters" have never been able to come to terms with. Their starting point and baseline have been Hong Kong is practically an independent city-state that almost has nothing to do with PRC except maybe the latter has sovereignty only in name. If you check their words and behaviors, they pretty much all based on such a premise, at least implicitly. Witness Mr. T's statements in this thread.

And they're wrong.
Yeah, they are so damn delusional
 

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