Hong-Kong Protests

In the west, it is generally accepted that religion should not be mixed with politics. But, somehow it's perfectly ok in Hong Kong. Figures.

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This is the leading cleric in Hong Kong who's behind all the pan-democrat activities. He can be seen often at the front line "protecting the children"!

Those susceptible to religious indoctrination are also susceptible to other kinds of indoctrination and are more easily manipulated.
It was a tool used by colonialist and is still employed to this day. Evidence suggest this is also happening in religious schools in HK.

It is no accident that the Americans wanted to install and prop-up a unpopular and brutal Christian regime in Vietnam.
 

Lnk111229

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My problem with religion is when people force it upon children with threat of hell or death. Which tends to be the case with prominent religions.

I am willing to allow freedom of all religions if there is a child abuse clause codified against religious coercion.


Only religion can make good people do bad things.
Lol nothing new. In my country if you want to marry Christian then you must convert or join Catholics. If you don't do this then aleast you unborn children must became Christian. If you don't want do that either then say goodbye to you love ones. And i don't know how about you but if someone say to me is my child need to do religious rite to purification some bullshit sins or will go to hell then they should get fck of my face real quick or i will beat shit out of them.
P/s. Communist not hate religious, they just keep religious in check so some crusader or Spanish Inquisition nonsense will not happen again.
 

Mr T

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I wasn't aware that you needed to have a licence to have a walkie-talkie in Hong Kong, but I guess it's possible. Otherwise the judge seems to have made a reasonable decision.

On the contrary, the judge believed there was sufficient evidence to suggest the couple had been providing first aid near the site of protest.

Kwok also believed it was possible Lee was just accompanying a friend as she had claimed, so despite evidence of her presence at the site of protest, he concluded prosecutors failed to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt.

“The court agrees that the three defendants’ attire and conduct on the day were very suspicious,” Kwok wrote. “But under the common law, the court has always followed the principle of presumption of innocence in handling criminal cases.”
 

Mr T

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Lol nothing new. In my country if you want to marry Christian then you must convert or join Catholics.

Catholics are Christian.

And it very much depends on the country. In most countries you can marry a Christian without converting, especially if you get married in a civil ceremony. If you get married in a church, it depends on the section of Christianity your fiance is a part of.

If you don't do this then aleast you unborn children must became Christian.

Churches can't enforce that. If you say "sure, I'll raise my children Christian" they'll take your word for it.

And i don't know how about you but if someone say to me is my child need to do religious rite to purification some bullshit sins or will go to hell then they should get fck of my face real quick or i will beat shit out of them.

You'd beat the shit out of your fiance or wife?

P/s. Communist not hate religious, they just keep religious in check so some crusader or Spanish Inquisition nonsense will not happen again.

Curious. Where I live there's no state-control of religion and yet I can't see any witch-trials.

Only religion can make good people do bad things.

Then I'm not sure why bad things happened in secular Communist China, especially during the Cultural Revolution. Maybe all those Red Guards were bad people from the start?

Those susceptible to religious indoctrination are also susceptible to other kinds of indoctrination and are more easily manipulated.

That's not how the brain works. Lots of secular people who never have any interest in religion are easily influenced or become addicted to gambling, drugs, etc.

It is no accident that the Americans wanted to install and prop-up a unpopular and brutal Christian regime in Vietnam.

US support for the South Vietnamese had nothing to do with religion and was purely a geopolitical decision. Also, you're rather forgetting that the (one would assume secular) North Vietnamese were no better than their neighbours and committed plenty of atrocities.
 

hullopilllw

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Of course, where do you even think the financial powerhouse status can go?
Singapore ? Even MSCI is moving from Singapore to HK, and there has been no blockbuster IPOS on SGX for a decade! Not even sure if Grab wanna list there over their main market Indonesia.
Taiwan ? They have expressed ambition, but erm... lets admit most of the current and upcoming wealth will be of mainland origin, and mainland companies will never IPO on taiwan's mini bourse.
Tokyo ? With negative interest rate? and an economy still struck in 3 lost decades ?
 

Gatekeeper

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I was just calling out the bigotry on his justification. No point aggravating over his dishonesty.

I know, I was just telling to say chil out. It is to get annoyed with someone who can't debate probably. Notice he just goes round in circles and talk pass you. He won't engaged directly with any valid good points anyone make here.

For example, the point I was making about Christians targeting children in school with teachers sending then out leading them to comit crime and rioting in the name of "freedom" (Hong Kong is the freest city in the world, that is some brain washing to convince the youngsters it isn't so.) And "democracy". And the fact I had done that in the UK I would be carried away and locked away for good. So why is wrong in the UK but it's ok in Hong Kong?

So there we noticed, he completely not answer that one question alone!?
 

Gatekeeper

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Correct.

All Chinese that go to Christian churches here in the US must accept that Taiwan is not part of China and CCP is evil. Otherwise they are ostracized.

It's extremely irresponsible and borderline child abuse to send an immigrant child to a church and brainwash him/her with threat of hell. Many Chinese immigrant parents think that to help their kids integrate, the kid must become a Christian, circumcised, and hate CCP. And Jesus is white.

Wow. Didn't know that's what the ate doing in the USA. Quite sad really.

Here in the UK, I help to run our local Chinese community association for the benefit of all expat Chinese. In our constitution, we specifically state everyone is free to join no matter where their origin.
 

Gatekeeper

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He is starting to get on my nerves with his support of these scum that still try to hurt the innocent and still the west glorifies this shit. Perhaps the most human thing to do is send these offenders to the US, to Florida or Portland to give then a good education on the current situation in regards to democracy there, with the virus and civil unrest in full swing. For all the flaws that China has in regards to HK, the situation in the USA is many magnitudes worse and certainly far more destructive. Please explain to me how in Gods name that the US is in any way better then China in managing this trade war, this pandemic and even these HK riots. I am positive that the US has failed in each and everyone of them, so badly that the nation is on the brink of collapse.
Don't let him. All he can do is impotently whine and try to provoke members here with his third-rate sophistry as the terrorists and separatists he supports are crushed. With the stroke of a pen, China has affirmed its sovereignty over Xianggang and there's nothing he or his kind can do about it but whimper.


Yes, don't let him.

Also he is entitled to voice his opinion on here. I'm happy that he does, and the sad thing is his views are not unique, it is the majority of the views of the western world (due to relentless drip drip effect of demonizing China through out the past 200 years). We just got to learn and live with that. Counter it whenever we can like on here to expose the lies that's being perpetrating.

It also showed to us what sort of skew logic some people have and the length it goes to manipulate (mind gymnastics) the truth to suit it's own narratives.
 
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