Hong-Kong Protests

I'd like to imagine a Chinese police chief or HK superintendent doing the same thing in public when there was civil unrest as this US Sheriff did, but it would be so fantastical I can't do it. I could just about imagine it if they were speaking to some Triad goons about to attack random civilians.

AssassinsMace said:

And don't kid yourself that you're a neutral observer. I haven't physically attacked anyone.

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No, but you support the authorities kicking the crap out of people you don't like in Hong Kong. That's not much different.

Mr T said:

No, but you support the authorities kicking the crap out of people you don't like in Hong Kong. That's not much different.

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Yeah because that's what your side does. It's the American way...

AssassinsMace said:

Yeah because that's what your side does. It's the American way...

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I don't support any police force when they harm civilians through negligence or malice, US police or otherwise. You're welcome to find a comment from me on the forum where I've condoned such behaviour.

Mr T said:

I don't support any police force when they harm civilians through negligence or malice, US police or otherwise. You're welcome to find a comment from me on the forum where I've condoned such behaviour.

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Generalization like your side does.

AssassinsMace said:

Generalization like your side does.

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Generalisation? What generalisation?

I indicated that you support the authorities using heavy-handed tactics in Hong Kong to restore order. You then implied that I supported the same in the US, and I denied that.

If you meant I was generalising on your position on police enforcement in Hong Kong, feel free to share a nuanced position and throw in some criticism of the police for being heavy-handed at times. Because I haven't seen such a balanced position so far.

Mr T said:

Generalisation? What generalisation?

I indicated that you support the authorities using heavy-handed tactics in Hong Kong to restore order. You then implied that I supported the same in the US, and I denied that.

If you meant I was generalising on your position on police enforcement in Hong Kong, feel free to share a nuanced position and throw in some criticism of the police for being heavy-handed at time. Because I haven't seen such a balanced position so far.

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Are you starting all over again. Hong Kongers generalize all Chinese so I get to generalize them. Do you stop them from doing what you're saying it's wrong for me to do? No. If it's not wrong for them to do then I get to do it.

OMG! The horror! Throwing someone down and pepper spraying him is worse than murdering an unarmed man who's handcuffed.

Mr T said:

I'd like to imagine a Chinese police chief or HK superintendent doing the same thing in public when there was civil unrest as this US Sheriff did, but it would be so fantastical I can't do it.

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Hmmm, wonder what this guy's black civilian kill count is...

You don't have to imagine that; you just have to read Chinese. When there were riots in Xinjiang, the CCP sent police/military officials with loudspeakers in vehicles to calm everyone down and talk sense into not only the minorities inciting violence but also to the Han Chinese to stop fighting their violence back with more violence. Very touching and powerful thing to behold.

But in Hong Kong, what any policemen say would not be covered in the news you read and it would be drowned out by the screams of terrorism around him. In the end, these nice protester folks in the US are much more civilized than the thugs and rioters in Hong Kong. In Hong Kong, try talking to them and telling them to stop and you'll likely catch a brick to your face before you finish your first sentence.

Mr T said:

I could just about imagine it if they were speaking to some Triad goons about to attack random civilians.

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That, you do have to imagine.

When it comes down to it, this isn't about facts for you; it's all about what you can and cannot imagine, which is about right for people who don't understand China except to fear and hate it like MSM sheep.

montyp165 said:

India dealt with its HK situation back in the day with

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(1961) so they of all people certainly wouldn't go along with colonialist enablers of any stretch.

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Goa! Please don't put this with Hong Kong. It's nowhere near as a comparison. That was an invasion, pure and simple. An act of aggression against a much smaller neighbour. Same with Sikkim.

But as we all know here, India gets a free pass from the west always. We are off topic. So I stop here.

Mr T said:

I guess most Americans would think it was a feeble attempt to bolster propaganda back home in China by making it look like the CCP cared about human rights. Like, no one in their right minds would think the CCP cares about the human rights of foreigners when it doesn't care about the human rights of Chinese people. But no one would actually care. Some people on social media would laugh, I guess.

It would be like a climate change denier going to an electric car factory and tweeting "we need more of these".



What hostile act? What's hostile about embassy staff having a short, informal chat with students? If there was anything sinister about it, it would have been done inside the embassy or otherwise behind closed doors.

It seems like you think diplomats should be locked in their embassies and only come out for formal talks with their host nations.

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Obviously, the US government does care about China fanning the flame in the US ...........


I have no problem with the US government's concern, except the hypocrisy of doing it oneself but would not tolerate others for doing the same. This is what turned off most of the forumers in this thread.