Hong-Kong Protests

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
If we are going to do some soul searching of the rights and wrongs, then perhaps we need to find out also how the hell, these students, who normally don't have two pennies to rub in their pockets, all the sudden managed to get all the latest armour, riot gear, etc.
That is an exercise in futility. Right and wrongs have no meaning between mortal enemies. Everything that contributes to national power, to the rise of your nation to the top of the world, is right. And everything away from it is wrong. This is a no-rules fight to the end for global domination; nobody is right or wrong. Just kill the other guy and you're right. That is the only way for China and all Chinese to see this and move forward. With 100% of the blame pinned on Western countries like the UK and US for fomenting unrest in Hong Kong, what does it achieve? Absolutely nothing. It's an empty complaint that makes your enemy smile and wink at you.
 

signgraph

Banned Idiot
Registered Member
Right and wrongs have no meaning between mortal enemies. Everything that contributes to national power, to the rise of your nation to the top of the world, is right. And everything away from it is wrong.

I hope the leaders at HQ see things clearly like you. I get nightmares of them seeking "social harmony" only to be backstabbed like the foolish First Nations people who have been ruthlessly exterminated with mass murder, rape, forced sterilization, and starvation.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
Following on from my post, and Kyli's post earlier showing the thugs nearly kill this guy without mercy a few hours earlier!

Then come this on one of the thugs' FB page! Are they all like this!? Not one ounce of humanity in them!

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Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
That is an exercise in futility. Right and wrongs have no meaning between mortal enemies. Everything that contributes to national power, to the rise of your nation to the top of the world, is right. And everything away from it is wrong. This is a no-rules fight to the end for global domination; nobody is right or wrong. Just kill the other guy and you're right. That is the only way for China and all Chinese to see this and move forward. With 100% of the blame pinned on Western countries like the UK and US for fomenting unrest in Hong Kong, what does it achieve? Absolutely nothing. It's an empty complaint that makes your enemy smile and wink at you.

What do think should be done? Is it Hong Kong just an arena for the two nations battling for world dominance? if so, China might have to forgo Hong Kong! And Hong Kong is unsafable!
 

solarz

Brigadier
What do think should be done? Is it Hong Kong just an arena for the two nations battling for world dominance? if so, China might have to forgo Hong Kong! And Hong Kong is unsafable!

We didn't want to make it an arena, but it's become an arena regardless.

If HK was saveable, we wouldn't have seen the election result we saw.

China will never forgo HK, but it will not help anyone who doesn't want to be helped either.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
What do think should be done? Is it Hong Kong just an arena for the two nations battling for world dominance? if so, China might have to forgo Hong Kong! And Hong Kong is unsafable!
By forgo, I assume you mean to forgo fostering it into a valuable Chinese city and turn it into a battlefield of political casualties. Well, in the short term, the only way to save it (other than summoning the PLA to institute martial law) would be to, as I said before, storm it with millions of violent, aggressive young Chinese patriots in red shirts. All law will be suspended due to the overwhelming chaos and it will basically be like the Purge movie series except without guns. Anyone who doesn't kowtow and kiss the Chinese flag immediately gets his/her brains splattered all over the sidewalk with a steel bat. Let the patriots kill the cockroaches and serve them street justice so that by the end, the only ones left surviving can win Oscars for their acting. And soon, they will believe their own act. No pan-democratic politicians who didn't flee in time should be left alive and of course with the collapse of the government, the CCP will take control ahead of schedule. This is a cultural revolution crash course to save Hong Kong very quickly. To the world, the explanation will be simple: no troops were used; the rioters wanted violent democracy to take over, so the Chinese youths gave it to them. They were both out-numbered and out-violenced, thus, they were out-lived. This is the method that I prefer to solve the Hong Kong problem.

But, there are other more tactful ways, which include more waiting and more starving of Hong Kong's economy, and I think even more long-term goals to be considered behind the scenes like using Hong Kong as a portal to damage and drain the Western economies that support the riots. Whether that happens now, soon, in 2047 with the full control advantage, I do not know. That kind of tact is out of my hands and up to ZhongNanHai.

But one thing is for sure; no matter the temporary pain, China is fully committed to saving Hong Kong and making her a truly prosperous city, both in material and finally in spirit.
 
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Nutrient

Junior Member
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1. Does Pan-Dems camp support violent protests? yes.
2. Did majority of the HK voters vote for the Pan-Dems camp? yes.
3. Did majority of the HK voters vote for pan-Dems parties that support violent protests? yes.

Presumably, the pan-dems are supporting One Country, Two Systems and want the two systems to continue. As they obtained a (small) majority of the vote, one can say the election was about Two Systems. Just from the election outcome one cannot say that the vote was about any particular issue only.


I don't want to keep repeating myself. I just want to state a fact "majority of the HK voters voted for pan-Dems parties that support violent protests".

No, you were saying something more like "the majority of the voters were supporting the violent thugs". That was different from what you are saying now.


Let's have our differences in opinion.

Fine.
 
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