Hong-Kong Protests

manqiangrexue said:

According to my girlfriend, several local gangs can no longer tolerate the riots and have beaten up quite a few rioters who immediately ran away and called the police. The police did not arrive on time and now the rioters are accusing the police of failing to protect them. You can't make this up. I used to believe what Josh Luo said, that they were willing to die for their cause simply because they seemed crazy and brain-washed enough; but now I don't believe it. Not only do they run away when the police defend themselves with guns, they run from gangs with sticks, gangs that they far outnumber. These are the actions of cowards who are only willing to fight when they know the other side is obligated to not harm them. They will not die for their cause; they have shown on every occasion that their self-preservation is very much intact.

I imagine that the people of Hong Kong are getting more and more fed up but I am seeing this change personally as at the start of the conflict, my girlfriend called them protesters, not rioters, for which I corrected her profusely. Midway, she said she wished the PLA would come sort them out and save Hong Kong with non-lethal force, arresting the hidden ring leaders because she says most of the people are just confused and stupid. Now, she's cheering for the gangs. I said, "I would love to see them defeated forcefully but China's enemies would love to see Chinese people kill Chinese people," to which she responded with a reptilian coldness, "Bad people need to die." LOLOL We've essentially reversed roles

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Gatekeeper said:

This is where I just don't understand the rioters (I stopped calling them "pro-democracy demonstrators" which the MSM still holding on to. Watching CNN just now, and they still give it some legitimacy by calling them that. Gee).

The very ideal of "independence" is so out there, it's like they are living in an alternate universe! Where in god's earth do they ever think that's even a remotely obtainable goal!

Hell, if they ever manages to get someting appraching that, Even I will upstick at my age and return to Hong Kong to fight them till my last breath!

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Hong Kong police will ban a rally and march on Saturday by the organiser of three record-breaking mass protests over the past two months, citing heightened safety concerns after last weekend’s escalation of violence, the Post has learned.

The Civil Human Rights Front would be informed of its application’s rejection on Thursday, a police source revealed.

The move was likely to spark more chaos and turmoil over the weekend, given the symbolic import of the event, scheduled to mark the fifth anniversary of the announcement of a restrictive electoral reform package by Beijing that was eventually rejected by Hong Kong.

The rally and march were supposed to call for genuine universal suffrage, rather than having pre-vetted candidates for chief executive, and to reiterate the five key demands of the anti-government protests of the past two months, including the withdrawal of the now-shelved extradition bill and an independent inquiry.

The front had originally planned to gather at Chater Garden in Central at 3pm and march to the liaison office, Beijing’s representative body in the city, in Western district.

“Both the rally and the march will be objected to. The risk is too big. You can see the number of petrol bombs the protesters threw last weekend,” the source said.

Clashes in Kwun Tong and Tsuen Wan last weekend led to 86 people being arrested on suspicion of various offences, including illegal assembly and assaulting officers. Police deployed water cannon for the first time and one officer fired a live round into the air after he and his comrades were chased and beaten by a mob wielding iron pipes and rods.

The ban would mark the first time the front had an entire event taken off the calendar.

Since the start of the extradition bill protests, which have since morphed into an anti-government movement, the front has organised key events signalling widespread opposition. On June 9, it estimated 1 million turned out to march against the bill and a week later, on June 16, it estimated 2 million protesters took to the streets. Each time police gave much smaller estimates, of 240,000 and 338,000 respectively.

Both events were peaceful. Most recently, in the aftermath of a series of weekend protests that descended into violence, the front again organised a peaceful rally at Victoria Park on August 18 that it said brought out 1.7 million people, while police gave an estimate of 128,000 people.

In total, 23 protests since early June have descended into chaos or unlawful assemblies, according to figures cited by police in a letter issued on Monday to object to the Confederation of Trade Unions’ plan to stage a rally at Cathay City in Chek Lap Kok this week.

The front did not respond to queries about the rejection on Wednesday night.

The ban could set in motion a plan by a group of protesters who called for a general strike next Monday if the government did not accede to their five demands by Saturday.

The planned industrial action, initiated online and with supporters from 21 sectors, would be the second strike organised in the city within a month. It would also coincide with the launch of a two-week class boycott by students from 10 universities.

In a joint declaration, activists from the various sectors – ranging from medical and aviation to tourism – called on people to join the strike and attend rallies in Tsim Sha Tsui, Admiralty and Central.

“We understand that in every movement, there will be effects on the general public,” a representative from the financial sector, who gave his name as Easy, told a press conference.

“But the short-term suffering may bring long-term benefits to all Hong Kong citizens.”

A citywide strike on August 5 brought chaos to much of the transport network and led to the cancellation of 224 flights and clashes in several districts.

Meanwhile, on Wednesday, hundreds of black-clad students from Chinese University put on protest gear and gathered on campus, chanting slogans and promoting the coming school boycotts.

A government spokesman reiterated its stance on possible strikes, urging the general public to stand fast at their posts or risk affecting other residents’ livelihoods.

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AssassinsMace said:

"Note to self: Don't wear a skirt to a violent protest."

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This is evidence of foreign influence in HK protests. They're as snowflaky and sensitive as millennials. I think it's more important to them that they can stage these protests so they can chant and synchronize every element like making sure everyone held up a purple screen on their smartphones. What more says staged...

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(1) On any occasion which the Chief Executive in Council may consider to be an occasion of emergency or public danger he may make any regulations whatsoever which he may consider desirable in the public interest.

(2) Without prejudice to the generality of the provisions of subsection (1), such regulations may provide for— (Amended 5 of 1924 s. 9; 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(a) censorship, and the control and suppression of publications, writings, maps, plans, photographs, communications and means of communication;

(b) arrest, detention, exclusion and deportation;

(c) control of the harbours, ports and waters of Hong Kong, and the movements of vessels;

(d) transportation by land, air or water, and the control of the transport of persons and things;

(e) trading, exportation, importation, production and manufacture;

(f) appropriation, control, forfeiture and disposition of property, and of the use thereof;

(g) amending any enactment, suspending the operation of any enactment and applying any enactment with or without modification; (Replaced 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(h) authorizing the entry and search of premises; (Replaced 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(i) empowering such authorities or persons as may be specified in the regulations to make orders and rules and to make or issue notices, licences, permits, certificates or other documents for the purposes of the regulations; (Replaced 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(j) charging, in respect of the grant or issue of any licence, permit, certificate or other document for the purposes of the regulations, such fees as may be prescribed by the regulations; (Added 8 of 1949 s. 2. Amended E.R. 5 of 2018)

(k) the taking of possession or control on behalf of the Chief Executive of any property or undertaking; (Added 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(l) requiring persons to do work or render services; (Added 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(m) payment of compensation and remuneration to persons affected by the regulations and the determination of such compensation; and (Added 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(n) the apprehension, trial and punishment of persons offending against the regulations or against any law in force in Hong Kong,(Added 8 of 1949 s. 2. Amended 40 of 1949 s. 2; E.R. 5 of 2018) and may contain such incidental and supplementary provisions as appear to the Chief Executive to be necessary or expedient for the purposes of the regulations. (Added 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(3) Any regulations made under the provisions of this section shall continue in force until repealed by order of the Chief Executive in Council.

(4) A regulation or any order or rule made in pursuance of such a regulation shall have effect notwithstanding anything inconsistent therewith contained in any enactment; and any provision of an enactment which may be inconsistent with any regulation or any such order or rule shall, whether that provision shall or shall not have been amended, suspended or modified in its operation under subsection (2), to the extent of such inconsistency have no effect so long as such regulation, order or rule shall remain in force.
(Added 8 of 1949 s. 2)

(5) Every document purporting to be an instrument made or issued by the Chief Executive or other authority or person in pursuance of this Ordinance or of any regulation made hereunder and to be signed by or on behalf of the Chief Executive or such other authority or person, shall be received in evidence, and shall, until the contrary is proved, be deemed to be an instrument made or issued by the Chief Executive or that authority or person. (Added 8 of 1949 s. 2) (Amended 71 of 1999 s. 3)

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taxiya said:

The ongoing censorship by western MSM regarding Hong Kong riot reminds me of Ürümchi riot in 2009 when BBC and CNN etc. cut out the original photos rioters throwing stones at the police but leaving the police in gears in the photos. In 2008 Lhasa riot they also labelled (The Guardians) Nepalese police rounding up Tibetan protesters in Kathmandu as PAP. The worst was that these MSM pointed a Han victim killed by rioters in Ürümchi as "Uyghur victim" killed by police.

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