Hong-Kong Protests

This is why military force works and this is why these citizens deserve to live under martial law. They only attack those who cannot or will not fight back like other citizens or Hong Kong police; they are like piranhas when the rule is weak, lax, and liberal, but they follow law and order when they are under fear. The PLA is the arm of the CCP and represents the number one thing they wish to destroy but there, they are orderly and they leave when commanded. No brick-throwing, no molotovs, certainly nobody charging soldiers with steel clubs, not even lasers being shined in people's eyes! What an orderly well-behaved crowd! They make arguments against democracy and freedoms every day with their actions!

I have to correct you the protesters did shine lasers at the barracks which is when they were told they were already breaking the law and need to disperse.
 

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Warning! Do not watch this if you are squemish. This is the moment the taxi driver was dragged out of his car and beaten senseless.

It is little wonder, after watch this, and then seeing the evening news report from a western country that completely misrepresent the situation to suit their agenda. That I get a little "personal and emotional", I apologise for that! But hope you guys understand where I'm coming from!

What happened here with the taxi driver and elsewhere, like the cop that got set alight, the guy got acid thrown at him. It is attempted murder in anybody's book. So why aint it here?! Instead all we hear is "peaceful demonstration", blah blah blah!

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This is a very serious crime. It's as bad as burning someone alive using a gas torch. This old guy could be permanently disfigured and blinded for the rest of his life.

Yes it is, and the sad thing is, the acid throwing thing has been around for sometime, but not widely reported, probably it is not as dramatic as someone get set on fire, I supposed!
 

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In this case they aren't doing anything wrong but it is great for reference and comparison if these people also go commit crimes masked.

Yes, BUT, and I'm not sure the thugs are aware, China has tech that can recogised a person from the eye or any part of the exposed face.

Also, every adult must have a valid ID with photo. It is a simple job to check it with the ID database!
 
saw your post in the morning, but wanted to hear from the Mod first, which by now I have, so:
Of course 1597 is appropriate. It calls for the police to perform their duties and enforce law upon all criminals no matter how violent they become. It is natural in every country for the police to shoot people who intentionally attack others with deadly force and intent. This is the real world, not some Disney fantasy where no matter what someone does, calling for forceful intervention up to lethal force is taboo. Violent criminals are shot; that's how it is and that's how it should be the whole world over.
inside #1597
there's the following claim:
The problem is catch and release. Use live ammunition will stop that, then you can permanently remove the problem. Just a couple of shots to the knee caps is enough.
while in Central Europe any use of firearms by Police is quickly reported by media including warning shots (rarely happens), and is debated at length if caused death (exceptional);
plus I've visited
  1. the place in Brno where in 1969 (then Czechoslovakia) during
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    two people were shot dead by local Police (not by the Soviets -- they killed some more one year before)
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    where there're hundreds of names of people who were shot dead in 1989
    (I now couldn't find the pictures I had taken there, but I assure you the monument they have there is very sad even by standards of those, like me,
    who have been to a number of military museums)
this is why I found #1597 claim totally unacceptable, but it may a cultural thing and for you guys, Internet warriors from posh neighborhoods in America, it's OK to talk "a couple of shots to the knee caps" in Hong Kong


You did not read 1599 properly. Where did you see the word, "wreck?" I not not say anything about wrecking a ship; I said the rioters who love the UK should be loaded on a ship and sent there to let them see if the UK loves them back. Maybe it will work out; maybe it is mutual and they can become British as they so desired. But clearly, those who perpetrate violent crime against China in the name of the UK are better off in the country that they love instead of the country they hate... if the Brits will have them, that is.
the chain of your imaginary events as you described them in
#1599
I just got a really sweet idea. Arrest all the rioters and cage them up on a dilapidated old cruise-ship set up to sail one last time. Give them all little British flags, and sail that thing to the British coast. The Chinese captain and crew can bail on a speedboat onto another Chinese vessel and China can tell Britain to keep it, ship and all included. If they don't, Beijing should chastise them for being so inhumane, turning away so many loyal ass-kissing grunts with British flags. Why would you turn down so many so loyal to you and who love you so much? You've gotta be racist against Asians or something LOL
suggesting "cage them up" ("them" = imaginary detainees) and "Chinese captain and crew can bail on a speedboat" would create a phantom ship that could run aground or collide!

at first I thought you had meant #1599 as a hyperbole, but you stick to it, Internet warrior

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and now I add this: disgusting suggestions like shooting people or living them on a ship should be moderated, or the SDF will turn into a cesspool
 
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I saw a video on Youtube recording the moment a policeman was shooting a protester (not sure where it hit) while that protester was attacking police. The commentator said police was practicing self defense. The protester's wound wasn't lethal and he later being sued for attacking police. Sorry, I can't find that video anymore so cannot post it here.

The policeman concerned was in his car, he got out and was quickly surrounded and set upon, and set fire on. He even dropped his gun. If I found that clip, I'll post it for you.
 

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Yes it is, and the sad thing is, the acid throwing thing has been around for sometime, but not widely reported, probably it is not as dramatic as someone get set on fire, I supposed!

Actually an acid burn injury is much worse than a fire burn injury since the former stays on the body to cause serious injury while the latter could be much briefer when the victim is able to get away from the fire.

In this case they aren't doing anything wrong but it is great for reference and comparison if these people also go commit crimes masked.

The only thing is these people won't be this revealing if they intend on committing crimes.

Those who commit crimes cover up their whole body including all their limbs.
 

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Warning! Do not watch this if you are squemish. This is the moment the taxi driver was dragged out of his car and beaten senseless.

It is little wonder, after watch this, and then seeing the evening news report from a western country that completely misrepresent the situation to suit their agenda. That I get a little "personal and emotional", I apologise for that! But hope you guys understand where I'm coming from!

What happened here with the taxi driver and elsewhere, like the cop that got set alight, the guy got acid thrown at him. It is attempted murder in anybody's book. So why aint it here?! Instead all we hear is "peaceful demonstration", blah blah blah!

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That's sickening to watch. Hope he survived it.

Those blackclads with face masks on are nothing but lowest of the lowly thugs. They were literally trampling on a HK citizen's rights to life, liberty and freedom that they themselves allegedly aim for. Simply unacceptable criminal violence. So much evidence of senseless violence in Hong Kong, but not a single peep from MSM about this.
 
Ignorant or not, for somebody who is the general manager, one would expect he would have a ...... um... brain!.

If you don't know enough about a subject, then as they say:

"Keep your mouth shut and be thought of that you MAYBE a fool. Don't open your mouth and have all doubts removed"

But in a way, I can see how he might be mis-informed.

As I had just watched the evening news here, and I can't believe what I was watching. I was so angry, I almost broke my TV. My wife have to tell me to calm down. (and I'm one the lay back kind)!

The evening news on HK, it starts with the newsreader reading the headline; and I quote:

HK Police crossed the line by firing teargas at peaceful protestors with children! lol,
Then it moved on about a pro-beijing (noticed it is never pro-China as it is a bad thing! And we never say pro-washington, or pro-London, ever, do we) taxi driver plow into a crowd. (And here I give 3 out of 10 for mentioning the taxi driver was dragged out and beaten(we all seen what happened to him))!

Now, this is how they twist things which is probably why our friend, the General Manager is ignorant of the fact!

As we know, the "peaceful protestors" are not peaceful!

It is an illegal protest, as no permit was issued. Protestors were wearing masks against the law!

And this takes the busicuit. As if taking children to an illegal protest (and knowing that it can turn violent any time) is a good thing?! The authority ought to lock the parents up for being irresponsible alone!

With regards to the taxi driver, 1st and foremost, no one knows whether orvnit his "pro-beijing" as no one can ask him, as he is laying in hospital battling for his life. (we all seen photos of him, as I and others have posted of him lying unconscious on the road!)

2nd, from footage I've seen, his taxi was surrounded by thugs, and in fear of his life, he tries to turn, and in doing so, ran into protestors. (he did not ran into them as in a straight line heading for them which would be a deliberate act). The very fact he tries to turn 180 degree round suggest he was trying to get away!

And furthermore nothing was mentioned about all the post I have shown on here with citizens being beaten up, and underaged protestors arrested and crying their eyes out!

The reporter is Debi Edwards. Hope you earn enough brownie points for your superiors! Shame on you!

Certainly shame on the reporters for their own misrepresentation of the facts, however don't forget to blame the editors, higher level management dictating the guidelines as well. Not to mention the channel, network, and production company. What channel and program was that?
 

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saw your post in the morning, but wanted to hear from the Mod first, which by now I have, so:
inside #1597
there's the following claim:

while in Central Europe any use of firearms by Police is quickly reported by media including warning shots (rarely happens), and is debated at length if caused death (exceptional);
plus I've visited
  1. the place in Brno where in 1969 (then Czechoslovakia) during
    Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
    two people were shot dead by local Police (not by the Soviets -- they killed some more one year before)
  2. Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  3. Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
    where there're hundreds of names of people who were shot dead in 1989
    (I now couldn't find the pictures I had taken there, but I assure you the monument they have there is very sad even by standards of those, like me,
    who have been to a number of military museums)
this is why I found #1597 claim totally unacceptable, but it may a cultural thing and for you guys, Internet warriors from posh neighborhoods in America, it's OK to talk "a couple of shots to the knee caps" in Hong Kong



the chain of your imaginary events as you described them in
#1599

suggesting "cage them up" ("them" = imaginary detainees) and "Chinese captain and crew can bail on a speedboat" would create a phantom ship that could run aground or collide!

at first I thought you had meant #1599 as a hyperbole, but you stick to it, Internet warrior
1597: I am unfamiliar with the history of your nation and I not really inclined to research it. Were there rioters trying to kill the police and set them on fire before they were shot to death? And they were memorialized? Or were they peaceful when they were shot?

The important thing is this: in the US and in all civilized countries, if someone were to attack the police with lethal intent (steel clubs and molotovs certainly included), the police would be free to kill him. If he were to be shot in the knees, that would be a great kindness and mercy.

If you found this unacceptable, then by your standards, how should the police react when a man throws molotovs at them and attacks them with steel clubs? If trying to kill a police officer is not enough, then what does someone have to do in your country to be shot?

1599: Of course, they need to caged up. That is how criminals are held. If not caged, then what do the prisons in your country look like?

The collision and wreckage is purely your imagination of what I said. The ship is to be sailed there and the British noticed of its arrival. Clearly, it would not be barrelling towards the coast. It would be neatly anchored so they can send their own captain to take control of the ship and all the people aboard. It would be an attack on the UK to send a kamikaze ship to collide with their port!

You know we are all there discussing possible solutions and ideas; calling them imaginary events by internet warriors implies that either 1. we can not discuss our ideas but rather only make observations or 2. one cannot advocate a forceful solution simply because one is not directly in the political position to impose it. Essentially, everything written by the people on this forum can only be sympathetic because we are not the Chinese authorities.

and now I add this: disgusting suggestions like shooting people or living them on a ship should be moderated, or the SDF will turn into a cesspool
There is nothing more disgusting than letting violent criminals continue to attack other citizens, the police and to vandalize property unpunished, except perhaps letting national traitors operate in broad daylight. Disallowing arguments to punish them appropriately in the clear evidence of severe crime will make SDF pointless and completely irrelevant. Attempting to ban such commentary is simply your mechanism of shoving your head into the dirt to avoid seeing the truth that you don't like. This is how people feel, and moderation does not change it. If you are not here for the relevant truth, then why are you here at all?
 
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