MwRYum
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Those are mostly "Cold warrior" if you know what I mean, and their CV was, is and still weight heavily on their involvement in the 1989 event - particularly a certain cardinal and a union activist.
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Those are mostly "Cold warrior" if you know what I mean, and their CV was, is and still weight heavily on their involvement in the 1989 event - particularly a certain cardinal and a union activist.
airsuperiority
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Yea I've heard people say they're shrewd, but oh wells I don't know..although honestly there's essentially no one who's genuine in LegCo right now that's suitable for the job...although probably all will still be better than CY. Long hair is genuine, but he's unsuitable for a billion reasons.
I don't know if they are. I don't know them before you mentioned them, so I googled them up and saw their Chinese title. Honestly as you know, groups with names like these are never good, and yea this group seems pretty extreme too.
One thing for sure, HKers don't support extremists. If their presences were on Sunday, they mean nothing now. Now it's really the public who decides what they want. And the OC trio are almost useless too now lol. But yea that shows that the majority in HK doesn't support extremism.
airsuperiority
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I think there's sth they're doing now (read an article about it one time), but I still worry because such educational campaigns need more spread.
Funny enough, I remember when I was at Guangzhou one time, when i was at a hotel, i turned on the tv and for one of the channel, it's constantly playing '90s-era old HKSAR gov't promotional videos on stuffs like hygiene and dropping off your kids at school or something like those. That channel has nothing else other than those and keep rewinding, so talk about brainwashing!(it's a joke) (imagine tying someone and putting them in front of the tv watching the reruns of the weather channel like in family guy) But yea I honestly dont understand wtf is that. First of all, it's a HKSAR 90s-era gov't promotional video that even HKSAR phased out, second, i was in china, so I don't know why this stuff is on tv, and third, im at a hotel. i could be a tourist and i don't get why you'd have this channel for TVs at a hotel.and of course who watches this stuff.
airsuperiority
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i totally agree. but of course luckily enough the majority of the hk public don't buy their ideologies. everyone knows that aint gonna work and hk can't go without china. as much as we hated to admit it we know that, but then again no one's ever for independence, so yea those people smokes weird stuff.
MwRYum
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Of course I know who and what they are, I just ask what's your opinion about them. Those are like ISIL if you ask me. They might be irrelevant now, but as this leaderless insurgency drags on, they'll come out and play again, not unlike the Right Sector in the Euro Maidan revolt.
Of all honesty, I never like the entire pan-democrat camp because they never put any solid policy or roadmap for HK, even during election when they need to at least try to put one, all they ever did were "rose garden routine" on the essentials, most of the time talk about political struggle against Beijing. Bah, see what that leads us to now.
In any case, this leaderless insurgency only throw a monkey wrench into the machine, but no proper solution is even close in view; meanwhile, opinions in Mainland China are calling for the destruction of this "HK machine", and the Western media is doing their best to egg Beijing to do exactly that.
If there's any hope, I'm certainly not seeing any.
Just posting a interesting article. . . take it as anything as you deem fits you believe. With so many examples of around the world, i would not simply dismiss the possiblity out of emotional wimp.
By the way, a part from all these reasons given by these Hong Kong protestors. I think decades of bias and superiority complex against mainlanders plays a deep sitted emotional sublime part in it. Just admit it. .. Before 1997, hk deemed themselves high and mighty , looking down on these poor and unwesternised backward farmers, who only go there to commit serious crimes. Now these farmers are not only richer, they are also HK's overlord. Its only human nature to feel such reverse of fortune as insults and inferiority complex steps in. I'm serious. .. It is a factor. . they won't admit it, of corse.
By the way, a part from all these reasons given by these Hong Kong protestors. I think decades of bias and superiority complex against mainlanders plays a deep sitted emotional sublime part in it. Just admit it. .. Before 1997, hk deemed themselves high and mighty , looking down on these poor and unwesternised backward farmers, who only go there to commit serious crimes. Now these farmers are not only richer, they are also HK's overlord. Its only human nature to feel such reverse of fortune as insults and inferiority complex steps in. I'm serious. .. It is a factor. . they won't admit it, of corse.
I'd like to think inferiority or superiority hierarchies don't come into play in it too much... but like I said before, trying to trace these movements back to their distal causes is very difficult.
As for connections with the US, at the moment I wouldn't put any water in it.
And pro beijing media doesn't necessarily reflect official CCP views, in fact more often than not, their articles are dismissable
As for connections with the US, at the moment I wouldn't put any water in it.
And pro beijing media doesn't necessarily reflect official CCP views, in fact more often than not, their articles are dismissable
airsuperiority
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Oh my opinions..umm I don't like them neither. I don't believe any extremists groups are good for hk's well-being, and I genuinely hope these guys don't end up trying to steer the protest in any direction. Anyhow, I don't think the public will fall to them that easily.
airsuperiority
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Those 2 newspapers have always been known to be pro-Beijing and no one reads them.
And second..it's very easy for you to think resentment is from jealousy, although that's probably the worst logic in the world. Jealousy therefore protest therefore cripple their own economy and not go to work? That's some real logic eh?
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The only good things out of those papers are for handling dog poop
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airsuperiority
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Agreed. It's almost toxic to the brain to buy that type of story as much as it is to believe in anti-vax articles and Alex Jones "documents", which unfortunately my dad is a full recipient of those type of stuff. He even started to speculate that people are paid to go onto the streets. if my eyes can roll to the back of my head, they'll still be rolling as we speak.
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