airsuperiority
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Re: Chinese General news resource thread
Not just the students, it's everyone, and we believe it's both.
For example the tear gas, the warnings to fire rubber bullets, and about to deploy the army. Who ordered this? The CCP.
Other things included the surge of properties being bought off by investors from China, which cooked the prices of housing from $1million HKD to $5 million HKD, making HK ranking 1st in world in terms of most unsustainable housing. (Vancouver coming in close second), when average income for HKers is $18,000/month.
Other things include competing for HK's already strained resources. Tons of ML mothers crossing the border to give birth, flooding the maternity wards that rendered local mothers out of service for them.
Etiquette issues
HK don't want to be independent, so we don't worry about the one country thing. It's just that CCP doesn't respect HK, and we are seeing it live now.
We are skeptical and quite pessimistic because we all knew we're talking about CCP who we're dealing with, but did hope for the best. Everything changed the past 2 weeks. HK went through much without going through too much conflict in the beginning, so we did give CCP a chance. It's not like we rejected them right out of the box after '97.
I think we all wanted to fight for our own future and rights ASAP before 2047 hits because we had even worse/gloomy views of life after 2047, when they can almost take everything back. We had no idea what's gonna happen, and we know things ain't gonna look bright for Hong Kong.
do the students believe the city's present circumstances is due to decisions made by the central government on appointing HK's leadership rather than simply a force of nature? (By the sounds of it, the answer is yes)
Not just the students, it's everyone, and we believe it's both.
For example the tear gas, the warnings to fire rubber bullets, and about to deploy the army. Who ordered this? The CCP.
Other things included the surge of properties being bought off by investors from China, which cooked the prices of housing from $1million HKD to $5 million HKD, making HK ranking 1st in world in terms of most unsustainable housing. (Vancouver coming in close second), when average income for HKers is $18,000/month.
Other things include competing for HK's already strained resources. Tons of ML mothers crossing the border to give birth, flooding the maternity wards that rendered local mothers out of service for them.
Etiquette issues
Naturally, when people feel like they don't have control and when times are hard they more tend to believe their voices and opinions can or could have resulted in a better outcome. In this case, they're seeking the "two systems" side of the "one country, two systems" phrase far more than the "one country" side.
HK don't want to be independent, so we don't worry about the one country thing. It's just that CCP doesn't respect HK, and we are seeing it live now.
Last few questions: what were the HKers original opinion regarding the point in the Basic Law saying universal sufferage would be the "ultimate goal," or however it was described? Did they truly believe it would be upheld?
We are skeptical and quite pessimistic because we all knew we're talking about CCP who we're dealing with, but did hope for the best. Everything changed the past 2 weeks. HK went through much without going through too much conflict in the beginning, so we did give CCP a chance. It's not like we rejected them right out of the box after '97.
Also, have any protesters considered the long term, once in 2047 when the "1 country 2 systems" would be abolished and HK would effectively be reintegrated into China proper?
I think we all wanted to fight for our own future and rights ASAP before 2047 hits because we had even worse/gloomy views of life after 2047, when they can almost take everything back. We had no idea what's gonna happen, and we know things ain't gonna look bright for Hong Kong.