HJ-8 ATGM in Syria

MwRYum said:

Having HJ-8 means the rebels can finally hitting something themselves, without leaving all the work to Allah.



If you think it through, the prospect of rebels topple the Syrian government is the worst kind. And for the Israeli, having an armpit of the universe just north of the border is the worst kind of future.

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I think it largely depends on how many HJ8s the rebels' allies are pumping into the country. The rebels have had advanced Russian ATGMS for some time, but only in small numbers, so while they have always been able to take out even the most advanced tanks in the Syrian army, the missiles were not really able to change the course of big battles.

With the rebels using HJ8s against things like buildings rather than save them exclusively to kill armour, as well as the number of videos popping up recently, you get the feeling that a significant shipment of HJ8s have recently been delivered to the rebels as well as training on how to make the most out of them.

MwRYum said:

Having HJ-8 means the rebels can finally hitting something themselves, without leaving all the work to Allah.



If you think it through, the prospect of rebels topple the Syrian government is the worst kind. And for the Israeli, having an armpit of the universe just north of the border is the worst kind of future.

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First off all I don't know how you linked the missile with the name of god, so next time you make a comment try and sepertate what's in ur head to what's actually being discussed, secondly if you have a problem with religion keep it to yourself because I'm sure no one here will be interested as its not a religious forum

Broccoli said:

New HJ-8 launch. I'm not sure what they are targeting, but it seems to be something other than a tank.
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Modern ATGM like the Javelin have two modes of attack, top attack and direct attack, top attack is used against armour like the turret of a tank whereas the direct attack mode allows you to hit land fortifications and have even been known to engage low flying helos

Question is does HJ-8 have a top attack/direct attack mode? Answer is I'm not sure but by the looks of it I have a feeling the rebels are actually showing off, would not be surprising since its the first weapon they have actually got that can do some serious work, the guy looks at the camera then few second later he lets off a round seen going towards a building

The operator is waiting for the go ahead from the camera man, should be the other way round, naa this is staged for camera only, what a waste of a round, no wonder this has been going on for 2 years

asif iqbal said:

First off all I don't know how you linked the missile with the name of god, so next time you make a comment try and sepertate what's in ur head to what's actually being discussed, secondly if you have a problem with religion keep it to yourself because I'm sure no one here will be interested as its not a religious forum

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You know what I mean, just look at those videos those rebels posted on the Youtube: most don't shoot properly, tons of "spray and pray", heavy guns not set up properly and then hammer away, RPG shooter fire from small room and got knocked out by the back blast...the list can go on and on.

Some of them nasty ways to die have to do with faulty equipment and ammo, but that's somewhat expected from militias not properly trained and equipped.

It's as if they just pointed the gun at the general direction (not "aimed", mind you), squeeze the trigger and pray to god that His divine hand will do the rest of the work. Look, anyone who went through military training or at least have some basic experience with firearms knows it's more come down to proper marksmanship and adhere to procedures, then to divine intervention to actually have a chance to hit something.

You're free to pray to God for good luck, but please at least do the 95% of the work - that is, properly maintain your weapon, choose your positions wisely, aim properly, fire in short controlled bursts. Leaving more than 5% work to act of god is utter laziness on the shooter's part, period.

And that's why I said that with ATGM like HJ-8, they can now actually score hits "the proper way", unless the guidance module is broken, or the guidance wire snapped, or the rocket motor flame out and fell to the ground after just 100m of flight...if that happens, then it's either improper handling or faulty equipment, simple as that.

Ah yes I see what you mean, and I agree, but we can’t judge all “Muslim” army’s by looking at these thugs and criminals, most of these guys probably have no idea what religion means yet it’s very bad advertisement* for all Muslims when they see these idiots launching weapons in God’s name, makes you cringe*
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More weapons than sense I call it, they have no cause, goal or aim, just brainwashed individuals who think are making a holy war with fellow countryman over what is very outdated thinking, who cares whose Sunni, Shia, Armenian, Turkoman, Kurd etc*
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Off course you have faith, but wars are won by those who make the less mistakes and the strategy, training, tactics, intelligence, planning, maintenance, etc etc these rebels are far from any professional organisation let alone a fighting force

HJ-8 tank hit.
[video=youtube;jRAvgpiDZ3s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRAvgpiDZ3s[/video]

Careful there Broccoli don't think this video is authentic, start of the video is same as we have seen before then it cuts and jumps, that ATGM is a shot from 2006 I think which hits a Israeli Merkava tank in Southern Lebanon

This is as much a media war as it is a battlefield war, just check the first video at the top of this thread the start is the same video with the rest of it edited clips with audio added later

That tank being hit does not look like Merkava or M60. Can you find that 2006 video where Israeli tank gets shot?

Only reason I checked it again was because I have actually seen that launch before and it wasn't Syria maybe it's somewhere on YouTube, and from the video it's not really possible to determine the tank I just remembered from last time

Anyhow doesn't really matter I just thought it was my observation

It will be a matter of time until Chinese arms exports will rival that of U.S/Russia.

Come on, if China can dominate as the world's factory with Walmart manufactures, etc... then weapons exports is a no brainer to follow that manufacturing industrialization trend.