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PrOeLiTeZ

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I never heard that he's anti-Chinese. In fact, Obama appears less pro-Taiwan than McCain. Furthermore, his own sister is married to a Chinese.

The PRC traditionally favored Republican because one, it was a Republican that opened US relations with China, and second, Republicans tend to be more free trade. The PRC is more willing to overlook the pro-Taiwan bent of Republicans for the pro-free trade. For that reason, despite the neocons, the PRC appeared to favor Bush more than Kerry back in 2004. Bush is probably liked more in China than he is now in the US. But you know, Clinton is popular in China despite sending carriers towards the Chinese coast back in 1996 when the PRC rattled some sabers to Taiwan.

As a note, Asian Americans favored Obama except for the Vietnamese Americans who favored McCain. McCain is quite popular among the Vietnamese, and we all know McCain is kept as a prisoner in Vietnam. In Vietnam, Hanoi Hilton is now a museum and there is special mention where McCain stayed. Even a special monument where McCain was shot down and captured. When McCain visited Vietnam when relations normalized, he was treated like a celebrity, and kids were like google eyed seeing the man that is so mentioned in their books.
anti-chinese meaning against chinese politics and government not people this was mentioned a couple times in TVBJ, BTV, Shenzen channel. And obama seems to give african-american as priority 1, and the rest second priority. asian american favouring obama over mcain true but not so much in the actual asia.
the news about the american election is more given attention to over here then our own election for kevin rudd. it funny you know
 

tphuang

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Basically I was neutral and cool to both, because I don't believe Obama and McCain could solve America's gargantuan problems without some real serious institutional and infrastructure change that amount to politically unacceptable pain. We remember the economic stimulus package handed out earlier this year right? What good did that do.

But then again, I'm a fan of Ron Paul, whom I think is the real maverick in all of this. Just too maverick to be accepted by the political establishment.

What tipped me against McCain was his choice of running mate while on the other hand, Obama choose his well, other than Biden being so gaffe prone. But anytime I want someone in a heartbeat away from the Presidency, I prefer Joe the MENSA than Mrs. Saks Fifth Avenue.

Sorry. Just freaked me out to actually see an American version of Imelda Marcos and Evita Peron.

I think if the media and the public ever gave Ron Paul a fair shake and good air time, he would've been even more successful than he was. I mean the guy really understands economics, which is something I can't say about McCain or Obama. And when I saw McCain at the debate, you can just see he has absolutely no clue about economy at all.
I had no clue what gobsmacked menat so I looked it up. Seems it means “utterly astonished, astounded”. I'm sure they are.

I pray better relations will abound with the Chinese in the comming years. I hope old barriers are broken down. I really do.
This is what I'm saying. The world has such a different view of America now that Obama has been elected. It's only going to help mend some of the fences broken by Bush.
 

bd popeye

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Can anyone tell me why the voting is on a weekday and a employee does not get time off to vote?

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Why Do We Vote On Tuesday?

In 1845, before Florida, California, and Texas were states or slavery had been abolished, Congress needed to pick a time for Americans to vote. We were an agrarian (agricultural ) society. We traveled by horse and buggy. Farmers needed a day to get to the county seat, a day to vote, and a day to get back, without interfering with the three days of worship. So that left Tuesday and Wednesday, but Wednesday was market day. So, Tuesday it was. In 1875 Congress extended the Tuesday date for national House elections and in 1914 for federal Senate elections.

Today, we are an urban society, and we all know how hard it is to commute to our jobs, take care of the children, and get our work done, let alone stand on lines to vote. Indeed, Census data over the last decade clearly indicates that the inconvenience of voting is the primary reason Americans are not participating in our elections.
 

sumdud

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I support neither.
My favorites were probably John Edwards and Ron Paul. But of course, neither one of them received enough time on the screen. Surely their strategies were different but they worked at least... Although I don't live in a very good neighborhood and I don't recall hearing about increases in PD budget from Ron Paul, and his idea of dissolving the FED, easily said, too much.

I agree with Popeye: Obama has too little experience and he's not going to know what he's doing. Hearing his idea of going into Pakistan alone gave my knuckles gan green.
And would I vote for Palin? NO! I don't know what McCain was doing picking Palin as his running mate. And if you are going to attack your opponent, you don't deserve to win. If you are the better one, there is no need to scare the people.

I don't really get how a significant number of Asians living outside their ancestral homelands seem to have this liking for McCain.
Dude, I thought you live just a couple of blocks from me. I haven't seen much McCain support from Asians here (except for the Vietnamese communities, do you read Asianweek?). For the immigrants, it's more undecided but all the kids are dead straight Obama fans.
I never knew what's the deal with McCain or why my family have McCain paranoia before, but picking Palin was his own dooms-election device for me.
I never knew about the racist slur he used, however, but if that's the case, peace be elsewhere.

Post 21, last sentence. Please, please, please with oath to the Styx!!!!!!!

In San Francisco at least, workers are allowed by law to have a 4 hour break for which they can go and vote.

And on last note:
The Electoral College is the most backward system in our nation's federal government today.
 

AssassinsMace

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Dude, I thought you live just a couple of blocks from me. I haven't seen much McCain support from Asians here (except for the Vietnamese communities, do you read Asianweek?). For the immigrants, it's more undecided but all the kids are dead straight Obama fans.
I never knew what's the deal with McCain or why my family have McCain paranoia before, but picking Palin was his own dooms-election device for me.
I never knew about the racist slur he used, however, but if that's the case, peace be elsewhere.

I thought you lived across the bay.

There were a lot of undecideds to the end. And I'm afraid to say Asians tend to jump on the bandwagon. Yeah of course now they proudly say they supported Obama. But before... Yes I do read Asianweek when it comes across me. And if you read it during the primaries the majority of Asians supported Hillary (another one that throws Asians under the bus) and were indifferent towards Obama. A lot of stories and editorials asking why Obama ignores Asians? Like McCain and Hillary gave a lot attention towards Asians? If you read Asian forums on the internet for some reason they're big McCain supporters. Both McCain and Hillary have offended Asians in some sort or another out of their ignorance yet Asians supported them more than Obama. It has to do with Stockholm syndrome. :)
 
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Mr T

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Here's your answer.

That explains the history but not why it hasn't been changed. The same applies to the UK. I think that weekend voting would be much more convenient, though letting people have time off work wouldn't be practical in parliamentary democracies as people normally vote in their constituencies (not necessarily anywhere near work).
 

bd popeye

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That explains the history but not why it hasn't been changed. The same applies to the UK. I think that weekend voting would be much more convenient, though letting people have time off work wouldn't be practical in parliamentary democracies as people normally vote in their constituencies (not necessarily anywhere near work).

I'd like to see voting on the weekend in general elections. However in the US there is a way around Tuesday elections. It's called absentee voting. You just apply. A ballot is sent to you. You vote and mail it in. Here in Iowa we voted the Friday before the election at the Registar of voters where you can vote when ever they are open. Also in Iowa you can registar to vote up to the day of the election.
 

sumdud

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I do have school, you know. :D

Yes, most Asians supported Hillary but she lost, so who could we choose? It's either McCain or Obama. It's not like anyone of them ever took a deep look at Asians (but at least we have not hear that anyone of them think that Asia is a country. :D) so I don't think it would matter election wise if we are under the bus... Although I think in general Asians have had a bias against the Elephants. There is a significant amount of people who are pro-Republican, but still outnumbered nevertheless.
 

bladerunner

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Whats your opinion on the above article Popeye

It could be just trash talk , but in a quick precise, Hugh Russell the author of this piece, claims to be knowledgeable of Zambian culture/ society.He takes issue with comments on whether Obama should be called the first Black President because he is as much white as black. He goes on to suggest it is incorrect to refer to Obama as a coloured person as his father is Black. Coloureds have White fathers and they go to great lengths to make the distinction.
Funny that its a bit like the Jewish culture where if you were the progeney of a mixed relationship you can only be regarded as Jewish if your father was Jewish.
I was wondering whether that type of distinction existed in American society?But you really need to read the article to truly understand where hes coming from.
 
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