Global Chinese diplomatic presence and intervention?

coolgod

Captain
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Not now ... there is a very little benefit to China's geopolitics currently

China now should concentrate to the big bully + the puppets ... the last thing China need is adding new "enemy" (i.e India, Philippine, etc)

Perhaps support it discreetly, but not openly and use it as one of the cards against those countries that maybe useful in the future
Is Philippine not a US puppet in your opinion? Do they have to give the US four more military bases for you to change your opinion?

China is holding out on India as usual, only time can tell if it was a good idea. Holding out on Saudi turned out to be really good, but there's no obvious way to know India would work in the same way.

Aside from India's border claims with China, India still promotes separatism within China by supporting the Dalai Lama and his CIA compradors. This is not something which is used by the ruling party for electoral votes (unlike the nationalist issues with border claims), nor is this an issue which can be changed by a different ruling party. This issue shows that Indian elites harbor long-term ill intent towards China regardless of geopolitical conditions.

From China's MoFA many recent speeches/publications, it seems like the 以直报怨,以德报德 motto is being introduced more and more.

For example
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秦刚表示,两千多年前,孔夫子就说过,“以德报德,以直报怨。以德报怨,何以报德?”中国外交有足够的厚道与善意,但当豺狼挡道、恶狼来袭,中国的外交官必须“与狼共舞”,保家卫国。

Perhaps the era of not interfering in other countries even when they continuously meddle with China's internal affairs is over.

Another aspect I want to emphasize is that China has multiple tools in this area, many operations can be done by the International Liaison Department of the CPC, instead of its state counterpart the MoFA. It seems like the International Liaison Department has been revitalized after the 20th Party Congress. This is useful because CPC aiding international ML/M/Maoist/Socialist parties is technically not the same as PRC aiding independence groups.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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China is holding out on India as usual, only time can tell if it was a good idea. Holding out on Saudi turned out to be really good, but there's no obvious way to know India would work in the same way.

Right now, Beijing is focused on oil politics. Iraq needs to be brought into line, after that, China has largely secured the middle east and may be able to pick up Israel too.

But if China isn't able to pick Israel, it's also a really good flashpoint. For cultural reasons, it's like America's balls. If US ever gets crazy regarding it's territorial aggression in Asia, China can always squeeze it's balls (Israel) to make America drop everything else and come running to defend them.

Personally I always believe that China should bait US to invade directly and use it as an opportunity to demilitarize and denazify America permanently, but this isn't what most of the communist party wants. Instead, they use proxy conflicts to bleed US slowly and safely without involving China itself, at snail pace.

Which means after Ukraine war, it is likely that we will have the Iran war, or maybe Israel war. That'll be the next distraction, while China will probably brew something in South America as that is ongoing.
Iraq is secure. Thanks to some certain countries the biggest barrier between good Iran-Iraq relations was removed and now Shia run the show in Iraq lmao.
 

Abominable

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Iraq is secure. Thanks to some certain countries the biggest barrier between good Iran-Iraq relations was removed and now Shia run the show in Iraq lmao.
Iraq is largely pro-Chinese but the Kurdish north needs to be addressed. They're virtually an independent state and are the last American proxy in the Middle East. I think we'll see a Chinese delegation sent there this year or next.
 

Ex0

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Is Philippine not a US puppet in your opinion? Do they have to give the US four more military bases for you to change your opinion?

So what if they have more bases? That just makes them more vulnerable if any war happens. If more bases was good, then why doesn't China open up more bases themselves outside of the first island chain? I support this, but now is not the time yet. That will really turn up the paranoia and make more side with USA if anything. I'd wait another 10-20 years at least. There's no rush. Better to spend on domestic capabilities than overseas currently. USA is just wasting it's money and spreading itself thin with it's overseas bases. China just needs to keep modernizing air force, navy. Rather than overseas bases, I say get 5000 nukes and continue investing in delivery systems like what China is currently doing.

Aside from India's border claims with China, India still promotes separatism within China by supporting the Dalai Lama and his CIA compradors. This is not something which is used by the ruling party for electoral votes (unlike the nationalist issues with border claims), nor is this an issue which can be changed by a different ruling party. This issue shows that Indian elites harbor long-term ill intent towards China regardless of geopolitical conditions.

From China's MoFA many recent speeches/publications, it seems like the 以直报怨,以德报德 motto is being introduced more and more.

For example
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Perhaps the era of not interfering in other countries even when they continuously meddle with China's internal affairs is over.

Another aspect I want to emphasize is that China has multiple tools in this area, many operations can be done by the International Liaison Department of the CPC, instead of its state counterpart the MoFA. It seems like the International Liaison Department has been revitalized after the 20th Party Congress. This is useful because CPC aiding international ML/M/Maoist/Socialist parties is technically not the same as PRC aiding independence groups.
India probably using that for leverage, since they basically got no other cards to play. But even then that is nothing anymore and India knows it. Same as quad, which scares no one. It's India being India. They recognized Tibet as part of china long ago. Dalai Lama is a joke these days, let him keep being the pedophile that he is sucking kids tongues.

Forget about those vassals. They aren't the threat. If you want to do it, then do it to usa, just like USA is doing it to China, like in hk, Tibet, Xinjiang, Taiwan etc. Meet up with separatist movements in USA, support and fund mass protests against USA, use their own words against them. Antagonizing USAs proxies who have no choice since they can't resist USA isn't a good move. You will actually turn them into real enemies even when USA is out of the picture or rather, china overtakes them in like 2040-2050. In reality they are just opportunists who will jump ship when china is stronger and can offer them more benefits than USA.

From what I see china is doing all the right things still, even if I wish it would be 5-10 years faster. Time is on china's side, and they know best their own numbers and timelines.
 

coolgod

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China, U.S. hold 13th political party leaders dialogue​


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BEIJING, May 23 (Xinhua) -- The 13th China-U.S. Political Party Leaders Dialogue was held on Tuesday via video link, and the two sides had in-depth and constructive communications under the theme of China-U.S. mutual cognition and mutually beneficial cooperation.
Liu Jianchao, head of the International Department of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee, attended the dialogue and delivered a keynote speech.

The two sides agreed to continue the exchanges and dialogues between the CPC and the Democratic and Republican parties of the United States.

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2023年5月23日​
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