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tidalwave

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It seems you have no a slight clues how the T-Bills work :-( ... just focus to what you know best lithography
Read about the open Treasury Direct account.
Treasury bills used to be paper, nowadays are all electronic.

Have to use US financial institutions to do that and that means liable to freeze by US government. Similar to IRS go into your bank account to take your money.

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Hendrik_2000

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Banning Taiwan TSMC to sell to Huawei will be suicide China will respond by banning Apple, GM, Boeing and Caterpilar Most of those company derive large part of their profit from China Now that China foreign ministry change tack by being more aggressive due to generational change The old guard are bit circumspect and deferential toward US. Overall Huawei still growing albeit at slower pace defying prediction of doom and gloom
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FILE PHOTO: A Huawei company logo is pictured at the Shenzhen International Airport in Shenzhen
By David Kirton
SHENZHEN, China (Reuters) - Huawei warned on Tuesday that 2020 would be its most difficult year yet due to American trade restrictions which dealt a blow to its overseas sales in 2019, and predicted the Chinese government would retaliate against the United States.

The world's largest maker of telecoms equipment issued the warning as it reported its weakest annual profit growth in three years. It said Beijing could hit back against U.S. measures to restrict chip sales to Huawei, by restricting sales of American products in China and by shifting to alternative suppliers in China and South Korea.
"The Chinese government will not just stand by and watch Huawei be slaughtered on the chopping board," Chairman Eric Xu told reporters at the launch of Huawei's annual report.


"Why wouldn't the Chinese government ban the use of 5G chips or 5G chip-powered base stations, smartphones and other smart devices provided by American companies, for cybersecurity reasons?"
The United States alleges the Chinese government could use Huawei's equipment to spy, an accusation rejected by the company.
Washington placed Huawei on a blacklist in May last year, citing national security concerns, restricting sales of U.S.-made goods to the company. U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is also preparing further measures that will seek to restrict the supply of chips to the company, sources familiar with the matter told Reuters this month.

One of the sources said the rule-change is aimed at curbing sales of chips to Huawei by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co <2330.TW>, the world's largest contract chip maker and a major producer of chips for Huawei's HiSilicon division.

"Even if this situation you mentioned happened, Huawei and also other Chinese companies can choose to buy chipsets from Samsung from Korea, MTK from Taiwan, and [Unisoc] in China, and use those companies to develop chips," Huawei's Xu said.
Xu, however, predicted 2020 would be the most difficult year yet for the company because of the U.S. measures and warned that further export restrictions could destroy global tech supply chains.

SMARTPHONES STRONG
Huawei Technologies [HWT.UL] said net profit for 2019 came in at 62.7 billion yuan ($8.9 billion), up 5.6% - its weakest growth in three years, and down from 25% jump a year earlier.
Its carrier business, which includes 5G mobile network equipment, saw sales rise just 3.8%.
Liang Hua, chairman of the board, said the company would have to adapt to the U.S. restrictions as well as the coronavirus pandemic.

Overall revenue rose 19% to 858.8 billion yuan, helped by a 34% jump in sales for its consumer business unit, which includes smartphones.
That was mainly driven by China, where sales surged 36.2% to 506.7 billion yuan. In contrast, revenue from the Asia-Pacific region excluding China fell 13.9%, while in Europe and the Middle East sales grew just 0.7%.

Huawei dominated smartphone sales in China, taking a 38.5% share of the market in 2019 compared with 27% a year earlier, according to research firm Canalys. This was in part due to a boost in nationalist sentiment after the company came under increasing pressure from the United States.

It spent 15.3% of its revenue, or 131.7 billion yuan, in research and development last year. Cash flow from operating activities jumped by more than one fifth to 91.4 billion yuan, thanks to a strong performance in its home market.
($1 = 7.0874 Chinese yuan)
 

tidalwave

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I wonder when will huawei finally become IDM like Samsung and Intel. Especially it has more geopolitical risks than anyone. It still resisting and want to outsource and wants the government to defend it.
 

antiterror13

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Read about the open Treasury Direct account.
Treasury bills used to be paper, nowadays are all electronic.

Have to use US financial institutions to do that and that means liable to freeze by US government. Similar to IRS go into your bank account to take your money.

Got anything to add?


Do you know that T-Bills has no physical backup at all, the only backup is the trust to the US govt to keep paying and honour it, also T-Bills is anonymous, it means if I had it I could sell it to you without telling the US govt.

Once the US govt do that like what you suggested, the trust would be gone in 1 second ... and nobody would trust it anymore and then what happen, panic sells and the the price of it down free falls, then the US would have to increase the interest and then mega inflation and then how to pay the interest with huge interest? Hope you know what I mean. Just focus what you know best which is lithography

It takes a very long time to gain a trust and only take 1 second to lose it ... I am sure even Trump is not that dumb

US has had a very big deficit for very long time, T-Bills is the big part to run the US govt, without it ... basically the US is dead broke
 

hydrogenpi

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Do you know that T-Bills has no physical backup at all, the only backup is the trust to the US govt to keep paying and honour it, also T-Bills is anonymous, it means if I had it I could sell it to you without telling the US govt.

Once the US govt do that like what you suggested, the trust would be gone in 1 second ... and nobody would trust it anymore and then what happen, panic sells and the the price of it down free falls, then the US would have to increase the interest and then mega inflation and then how to pay the interest with huge interest? Hope you know what I mean. Just focus what you know best which is lithography

It takes a very long time to gain a trust and only take 1 second to lose it ... I am sure even Trump is not that dumb

US has had a very big deficit for very long time, T-Bills is the big part to run the US govt, without it ... basically the US is dead broke


Since everything is digital these days, and T-Bill I'm assuming is NOT blockchain based, then how exactly can China sell T-Bills in anonymous manner such that US could not put a stop to it? Hypothetically couldn't US just sanction any nation that buys the T-Bills from China and so on and so forth?
 

manqiangrexue

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Since everything is digital these days, and T-Bill I'm assuming is NOT blockchain based, then how exactly can China sell T-Bills in anonymous manner such that US could not put a stop to it? Hypothetically couldn't US just sanction any nation that buys the T-Bills from China and so on and so forth?
Honestly, the US can commit whatever poopoo moves it wants as it sees itself decline. It can refuse to pay all debts; it can seize foreign assets in the US but it's just murdering its own status in the world. Everything America does shows the world how it has lost its way as a benevolent power and is willing to embrace every underhanded tactic it can think of when it's being beaten at its own game by China. The US has lost nearly all its allies by instigating a trade war, asking others to ban Huawei, trying to blame China for natural disaster (as well as scuttling the Iran deal) and it's now becoming visible that they are pushing back, which makes the US even more desperate and flustered. So America can get as ugly as it wants but when no one trusts the US dollar, America's done for, and any losses that China incurs whether it be unpaid debts or lost assets in the US will be a small price to see that day.
 

tidalwave

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Do you know that T-Bills has no physical backup at all, the only backup is the trust to the US govt to keep paying and honour it, also T-Bills is anonymous, it means if I had it I could sell it to you without telling the US govt.

Once the US govt do that like what you suggested, the trust would be gone in 1 second ... and nobody would trust it anymore and then what happen, panic sells and the the price of it down free falls, then the US would have to increase the interest and then mega inflation and then how to pay the interest with huge interest? Hope you know what I mean. Just focus what you know best which is lithography

It takes a very long time to gain a trust and only take 1 second to lose it ... I am sure even Trump is not that dumb

US has had a very big deficit for very long time, T-Bills is the big part to run the US govt, without it ... basically the US is dead broke
No one trust US g
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Honestly, the US can commit whatever poopoo moves it wants as it sees itself decline. It can refuse to pay all debts; it can seize foreign assets in the US but it's just murdering its own status in the world. Everything America does shows the world how it has lost its way as a benevolent power and is willing to embrace every underhanded tactic it can think of when it's being beaten at its own game by China. The US has lost nearly all its allies by instigating a trade war, asking others to ban Huawei, trying to blame China for natural disaster (as well as scuttling the Iran deal) and it's now becoming visible that they are pushing back, which makes the US even more desperate and flustered. So America can get as ugly as it wants but when no one trusts the US dollar, America's done for, and any losses that China incurs whether it be unpaid debts or lost assets in the US will be a small price to see that day.
Absolutely right. If all it costs China to completely destroy what America has built for itself after WWII is a trillion dollars (even less, since there are many more US assets in China that can be seized as compensation than there are Chinese assets in the US) then it's a great bargain.
 
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