Dude Germany is doing it exactly in the way you want, the needs of the Bundeswehr are known for a while already and now years later they get the budget for which the need was also already known.
German Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
Patriot isn't any better than Aster. Look at the specs.
Aster beats Patriot in range and speed.
Because Germany always has to buy American even when it doesn't make a lick of sense.
Iris-T is a much smaller system which cannot ever replace Patriot.
SM6 is a much bigger missile. It has 250km range vs your non-existant HYDEF missile. Similar my ass.
Arrow proved useless against Iranian hypersonic ballistic missiles. It won't do any better against Oreshnik. Waste of money.
The Germans are basically making an S-350 analog. Good for them but remains to be seen how well it will work in practice.
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ger_mark
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SM6 and HYDEF are sililar by the fact that they can be used against incoming ballistic missiles. SM6 has a limited effectivity against Hypersonic weapons as well. That's about it for the similarities. Land based or from ships.
Hydef is a 2 Stage system with a much greater Range(height of 80km VS 34km for SM6) and a MUCH greater speed (Mach 3.5 VS Mach 12)
Hydef is a 2 Stage system with a much greater Range(height of 80km VS 34km for SM6) and a MUCH greater speed (Mach 3.5 VS Mach 12)
I can buy that they have some grand plans about where to spend the new budget, but that they've done the hard work and properly reassessed where the military is and figured out what all their needs are? Absolutely not. If the German military were capable of such introspection, then they wouldn't be in the mess they're in right now. It needs to be completely reformed, and that's just unlikely to happen any time soon. Realistically, if they're doing it properly, they would be revealing all the things they've found, and all the solutions they've come up with. Without doing this preliminary work, adding more money isn't trying to address the wrong issues.
ger_mark
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Noone claimed issues will be resolved instantly. But funding was the main problem. If we maintain this level of spending for a couple of years we will end up with a very well equipped military.
E.g. The 4 planned Layers of Anti Ballistic Missiles won't materialize without funding, no matter how effective your military administration may become.
E.g. The 4 planned Layers of Anti Ballistic Missiles won't materialize without funding, no matter how effective your military administration may become.
The German military had a budget last year of nearly $90 Billion. If you can't build a proper military with that kind of money, then you're doing wrong, and just adding more money will only go so far. I predict that if that's all they're going to do, Germany is going to be a military with a lot of stuff, but much of it is going to be of questionable value, and it shouldn't be considered "very well equipped". What Germany needs is to do instead is to remove the rot from the Bundewehr and to properly plan its growth.