Forget it, is all or nothing. Once the war started can only end with a take over or a nuclear exchange.
Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis
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it is still a little tiny island. look at the size. just 6 percent of total Ukraine's area..
Hmm I agree with this, good points
Also good points, I don't necessarily agree with all of it just yet but something to think about. Appreciate the thoughtful discussion.
Seems that Taiwan (with the US) probably should have pushed for more formal independence in the past and that it may be too late to do such a thing now.
The biggest thing was the "playing with fire" phrase, which was at best vaguely threatening some unspecified consequences some time in the future. People overloaded that with far more than it could bear and it became a death warrant on Pelosi.
To be honest, if the PLA regularizes these exercises on Taiwanese "territory", I'll accept that as an exacted price for Pelosi's visit.
the big problem is that Chinese has not back out, I watched the 1996 Taiwan crisis and this is way bigger. I have never see China surrounding this island in such massive way. Military commanders are seriously freaking out. I think the Chinese are pushing things towards the edge to see with how much they can get away with or how close they can get towards a full fledge invasion.
One single miscalculation and we have a gigantic crisis in our hands.
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It is impressive how China prevented that from happening when it was much weaker and could literally not prevent the loss of Taiwan against the US military until now when it can forcefully do so with modern military power including MAD with the US. But then again, the West understands only power and force so when China surpasses the US militarily, we were going to retake it anyway, even if it was made independent before. As you said, borders change, and as I said, all that's needed is war.
Nah, trying and failing here looks worse than not trying at all. If you're not going to go all the way, don't bother.
Most people don't know the details of how strong various militaries are. They only know about recent wars. The Soviet Union was respected because of the second world war and Russia has inherited that respect. But they clearly don't deserve it. Vietnam earned respect through its successful defence against France and the US, but it wouldn't be very accurate to describe Vietnam's armed forces today as particularly powerful in the region. Reputation like this can be powerful, but it's only based on history, not today's facts. And you can only change it by fighting a war. Let's hope China won't need to fight a war to conquer Taiwan
one rare thing I can completely agree with you on. The weakest move is to intercept without actually forcing the US plane away. Large action is needed which reset the power balance visibly in China's favor again.
let's wait until tomorrow night when Pelosi leaves and US has no more excuse to care for Taiwan for the moment, then the "exercises" start and we will see the full depth of China's prepared countermove.
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