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DPRKPTboat

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Thanks for the photo. Does it show one of the current two hulls when they were under construction? Or does it show a new hull being built? That looks like quite a recent photo.
 

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the photo in the picture is claimed to be from the 054A under construction in HuangPu
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Now, from the picture, it mentions VLS version of a Chinese Klinok rather than VLS version of Chinese shtil. Interesting. I wonder if the photo is a fake or not.
 

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The VSL pic is from Russian Udaloy class DDG, and the "pic" of the ship is GCI...so it's not real...
 

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Gollevainen said:
The VSL pic is from Russian Udaloy class DDG, and the "pic" of the ship is GCI...so it's not real...
yeah, I didn't think the photo is real either. And I never said the ship pic was real. But the pic was mentionned on CDF a while back as the picture of one proposed 054A designs by a Chinese shipyard.
 

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Z-9C lacks the advanced avonics of the KA-28, but I still think they would use the Z-9C since it would make more sense to put indigenous helicopters on a relatively cheap platform. The Harbin class also uses Z-9Cs.

I don't think 45 FFGs were designed to be ASW dominant ships, so fitting them with more advanced helicopters doesn't make sense.

Speaking of ASW, does anyone know the capabilites of the sonar or torpedo capabilites to the type 54?

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sino52C said:
Z-9C lacks the advanced avonics of the KA-28, but I still think they would use the Z-9C since it would make more sense to put indigenous helicopters on a relatively cheap platform. The Harbin class also uses Z-9Cs.

I don't think 45 FFGs were designed to be ASW dominant ships, so fitting them with more advanced helicopters doesn't make sense.

Speaking of ASW, does anyone know the capabilites of the sonar or torpedo capabilites to the type 54?

Thanks.
054 is actually supposed to be an ASW frigate believe it or not. It's supposedly equipped with China's latest sonar and torpedo (latest Yu-7). We've seen China showing it's indigenously developed Towed Array Sonar to the public. Not sure if it's actually on 054. Maybe someone more qualified can comment on this based on the 054 pictures?
 

MIGleader

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How advanced could the "latest" yu-7 possibly be? Its range is less than 15km, and its speed is only 43 knots. Does it perhaps have some new guidance in addition to basic passive and acoustic homing? Otherwise, im rather skeptical of it's abilities

Why doesnt the PLAN abondone it's yu-7 in favor of clearly superior russian torpedoes, such as the ss-n-14 silex(on Kara class), which has a range of 55km and a speed approching mach 1.
 

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MIGleader said:
How advanced could the "latest" yu-7 possibly be? Its range is less than 15km, and its speed is only 43 knots. Does it perhaps have some new guidance in addition to basic passive and acoustic homing? Otherwise, im rather skeptical of it's abilities

Why doesnt the PLAN abondone it's yu-7 in favor of clearly superior russian torpedoes, such as the ss-n-14 silex(on Kara class), which has a range of 55km and a speed approching mach 1.

because the production line shut down in russian after the fall of USSR same for a lot of soviet weapons.

most of chian's enemies have weak sub forces plus china also has a rather large sub for its self so asw can be ignored up to a point
 
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