F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
If they did that properly, there will bot be the level of compromise you envision.
I believe all three will be built...and like any major program the deficiencies and problems will be found out and corrected. I then believe all three variants will be built in numbers for various nations and will be successful 5th generation aircraft in those various functions.
Time will tell.
Not at all necessary. They designed the basic structure to take this into account and then mated the specifics needed for those specific different function to the basic.
If they did that properly, there will bot be the level of compromise you envision.
I believe all three will be built...and like any major program the deficiencies and problems will be found out and corrected. I then believe all three variants will be built in numbers for various nations and will be successful 5th generation aircraft in those various functions.
Time will tell.
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
100-120mil a pop for the JSF is fair game, and that's the thin line LM got to press themselves from disappointing its customers further, add to that setup, support and maint. costs
for now everyone is expecting the JSF north the 100mil mark, and only further down the production curve will they manage to cut down the cost per unit, if they get there...
100-120mil a pop for the JSF is fair game, and that's the thin line LM got to press themselves from disappointing its customers further, add to that setup, support and maint. costs
for now everyone is expecting the JSF north the 100mil mark, and only further down the production curve will they manage to cut down the cost per unit, if they get there...
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
Time will tell if they made the right decision...but the US is certainly counting on the same, as are many other countries with respect to this aircraft.
Yep...but a price the Japanese are willing to pay. Clearly, they think that this aricraft is well worth it and will meet their needs for the coming decades. My guess is, before all is said and done, they will buy...or even build...more, including the "B" model.
Time will tell if they made the right decision...but the US is certainly counting on the same, as are many other countries with respect to this aircraft.
Equation
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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
Does Japan or any other country has license yet to build the F-35 (with exception to the engine) entirely?
Does Japan or any other country has license yet to build the F-35 (with exception to the engine) entirely?
Equation
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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
True, but look at it from Japan's perspective, it's much cheaper than doing the whole research and development at this time, especially during this hard economic times.
True, but look at it from Japan's perspective, it's much cheaper than doing the whole research and development at this time, especially during this hard economic times.
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
There was talk about Japan doing some license building. I do not know what the final agreement was. Whether they got it, or will do it after the first 42, or what. I do know that it was on the table for the Japanese though at one point.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
And so they made there call.Lockheed Martin Press release said:
plawolf
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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
It is certainly a price they were willing to pay, but there is no indication that they think the aircraft is 'well worth it'.
Considering that the F22 cost, what $150m apiece, the F35 doesn't look like such good value for money, especially for a country like Japan who doesn't plan on doing all that much bombing.
With the Chinese J20 and Russian PAK-FA now in the picture, the only thing the Japanese could have accepted was a 5th gen of their own. Talk of indigenous development is fanciful, so unless they were willing to go Russian, the only option was to buy the F35, at whatever the asking price (within reason of course) since that is the only realistic choice.
To me, that seems a little closer to 'over a barrel' than 'well worth the money'
The choice of the A model is a little odd. I think ideally, they would have preferred B models so they could operate them off of their carriers, oppst, helicopter cruisers. But the B model is just looking a little too risky to commit to at present. That is fair enough, but I would have thought that the naval C model would have suited Japan far better than the Air Force As. What with Japan being so small and surrounded by water on all sides and all.
The F35Cs might also have been able to operated off of their carriers even, and the increased range and corrosion protection would have also made a lot of sense.
Could it be that the F35C was beyond the budget of even the Japanese?
It is certainly a price they were willing to pay, but there is no indication that they think the aircraft is 'well worth it'.
Considering that the F22 cost, what $150m apiece, the F35 doesn't look like such good value for money, especially for a country like Japan who doesn't plan on doing all that much bombing.
With the Chinese J20 and Russian PAK-FA now in the picture, the only thing the Japanese could have accepted was a 5th gen of their own. Talk of indigenous development is fanciful, so unless they were willing to go Russian, the only option was to buy the F35, at whatever the asking price (within reason of course) since that is the only realistic choice.
To me, that seems a little closer to 'over a barrel' than 'well worth the money'
The choice of the A model is a little odd. I think ideally, they would have preferred B models so they could operate them off of their carriers, oppst, helicopter cruisers. But the B model is just looking a little too risky to commit to at present. That is fair enough, but I would have thought that the naval C model would have suited Japan far better than the Air Force As. What with Japan being so small and surrounded by water on all sides and all.
The F35Cs might also have been able to operated off of their carriers even, and the increased range and corrosion protection would have also made a lot of sense.
Could it be that the F35C was beyond the budget of even the Japanese?