F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

supersnoop

Major
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First the Image isn’t verified yet. Second the USN is looking at recovery options. This literally just happened it’s not like anyone just keeps recovery equipment capable of pulling aircraft out of the sea on hot standby. It takes time to locate,assemble, assess, plan and recover. It took weeks from the 11/17 loss till 12/7 announced recovery. How far down the plane is is going to be a huge factor. Is it shallow or deep.

Next in the case of the P3 incident they were literally in China on the ground. It’s a hell of a lot easier to get inside a jet on a landing strip then one in the middle of the pacific.

I think my question would be better posed as, who makes the call to attempt recovery or destroy? The BBC article did seem to imply that it was salvageable regardless of the photo.

What is the contingency plan?

Obviously with the P3 it was known that you were going to end up in “non-friendly” territory, and with this case it is more ambiguous, but there must be some idea whether you can scramble recovery assets before the PLA can get there
 

Temstar

Brigadier
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It hit some sort of structure during landing it appears.
Supposedly the muffled expulsion and puff of smoke is from the ejection seat firing.

AFAIK F-35C landing is quite automated and precise, to the degree that some say the aircraft is "designed for 3rd wire". To have a huge incident like this either both the pilot and LSO are sleeping at the wheel, or something has gone seriously wrong with the aircraft software. The amount of leaked photos and videos are also quite ridiculous and does not reflect well on the USN. Hell it took something like 3 week before the Royal Navy's video of their F-35B going off the ramp leaked, while this leak only took 3 days.

Can you imagine if PLAN leaked like this, people would be calling for heads to roll.
 

9dashline

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Supposedly the muffled expulsion and puff of smoke is from the ejection seat firing.

AFAIK F-35C landing is quite automated and precise, to the degree that some say the aircraft is "designed for 3rd wire". To have a huge incident like this either both the pilot and LSO are sleeping at the wheel, or something has gone seriously wrong with the aircraft software. The amount of leaked photos and videos are also quite ridiculous and does not reflect well on the USN. Hell it took something like 3 week before the Royal Navy's video of their F-35B going off the ramp leaked, while this leak only took 3 days.

Can you imagine if PLAN leaked like this, people would be calling for heads to roll.
Why would personall cell phones even be allowed for the crew in the first place ?

My guess its the software bug
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
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Supposedly the muffled expulsion and puff of smoke is from the ejection seat firing.

AFAIK F-35C landing is quite automated and precise, to the degree that some say the aircraft is "designed for 3rd wire". To have a huge incident like this either both the pilot and LSO are sleeping at the wheel, or something has gone seriously wrong with the aircraft software. The amount of leaked photos and videos are also quite ridiculous and does not reflect well on the USN. Hell it took something like 3 week before the Royal Navy's video of their F-35B going off the ramp leaked, while this leak only took 3 days.

Can you imagine if PLAN leaked like this, people would be calling for heads to roll.

No the puff of smoke is from the engine.
 

Temstar

Brigadier
Registered Member
Why would personall cell phones even be allowed for the crew in the first place ?

My guess its the software bug
If's it's not two people sleeping at the wheel at the same time and not software error then there's a 3rd, even more intriguing possibility. The fact that USN have been unusually quite at this incident makes it even more interesting. Recall when USS Connecticut banged into something USN fairly quickly came out and said it hit some underwater object, before the sub was even back to Guam. Here it took more than 24 hours before the USN would even admit the aircraft is in the water, and were it not for the leaked video and photos people would have zero idea about the nature of the incident and would probably still be guessing mainly that an arrestor wire snapped. Even now we still don't know weather or not the carrier itself sustained any damage or how the deck crew were injured.

Perhaps the pilot was spooked by something while in the air, making him perform worse than usual at landing time, ala Cougar in Top Gun. I recall there were some big PLAAF incursions into the Taiwan ADIZ at the same time.
 

9dashline

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If's it's not two people sleeping at the wheel at the same time and not software error then there's a 3rd, even more intriguing possibility. The fact that USN have been unusually quite at this incident makes it even more interesting. Recall when USS Connecticut banged into something USN fairly quickly came out and said it hit some underwater object, before the sub was even back to Guam. Here it took more than 24 hours before the USN would even admit the aircraft is in the water, and were it not for the leaked video and photos people would have zero idea about the nature of the incident and would probably still be guessing mainly that an arrestor wire snapped. Even now we still don't know weather or not the carrier itself sustained any damage or how the deck crew were injured.

Perhaps the pilot was spooked by something while in the air, making him perform worse than usual at landing time, ala Cougar in Top Gun. I recall there were some big PLAAF incursions into the Taiwan ADIZ at the same time.
Well if he went to afterburner right before ejecting (in attempt for the plane not to crash into the carreir) and if the F35 came close enough to hitting the carrier but without actually striking, maybe the wind blast caused the injuries

F35 can perform fully autoland, the weather wasn't bad either, and if he was spooked he could have just have the autopilot land it, right? Or maybe they will put the scapegoat on accussing China jamming the signals with evil 6G lol

All these video leaks makes me think maybe all of this is theater and the US is doing this for "show" and intentionally sandbagging
 
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