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Not surprising (at all) but it is now semi official

USMC to Fly First F-35B from Japan’s Izumo-class Aircraft Carriers

U.S. Marine Corps' F-35B STOVL fighters will be the first fixed wing aircraft to fly from Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) Izumo-class "helicopter destroyers", following the conversion of both JS Izumo and JS Kaga into aircraft carriers.
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SamuraiBlue

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Not surprising (at all) but it is now semi official

USMC to Fly First F-35B from Japan’s Izumo-class Aircraft Carriers


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Basically they are bring the trainer onto JS Izumo instead of sending the trainees to USMC carriers which makes more sense since the trainees will have more time to train then on a US carrier.
It still begs the questions where are the JMSDF going to find the trainees?
 

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Basically they are bring the trainer onto JS Izumo instead of sending the trainees to USMC carriers which makes more sense since the trainees will have more time to train then on a US carrier.
It still begs the questions where are the JMSDF going to find the trainees?
If I understand the sequencing on the timeline, the Izumo will undergo the refit in 2020. This will probably be into late 2022/early 2023 before actual F-35B training can proceed on it. The other critical path is the procurement of the F-35Bs and the timeline on delivery. Sending trainees to USMC carriers will make sense if the main critical path is the refit.
 

SamuraiBlue

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If I understand the sequencing on the timeline, the Izumo will undergo the refit in 2020. This will probably be into late 2022/early 2023 before actual F-35B training can proceed on it. The other critical path is the procurement of the F-35Bs and the timeline on delivery. Sending trainees to USMC carriers will make sense if the main critical path is the refit.
I doubt the USMC pilots/flight commanders will greet JMSDF trainee pilots with open arms considering it will cut their precious training time and resources to accommodate them. The USN has more luxury with more ships and space compared to the USMC amphibious carriers but JS Izumo won't get a CAT so training on a USN carrier doesn't match the requirements.
 

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I doubt the USMC pilots/flight commanders will greet JMSDF trainee pilots with open arms considering it will cut their precious training time and resources to accommodate them. The USN has more luxury with more ships and space compared to the USMC amphibious carriers but JS Izumo won't get a CAT so training on a USN carrier doesn't match the requirements.
They will be going to MCAS Beaufort with all the other Marines Sam, they'll be more than happy to share their birds, and their basing/berthing with the JMSDF...

I can assure you they will be treated with the utmost respect and honor, until they "screw up", and then they will be given "SHIT" just like every other aviator!

I suppose I can guess where you are coming from? but the Marine Aviators are the best in the business, the USMC has made flying Harriers look like a "piece of cake"! they are that good

Flying the F-35 Bravo is a "piece of cake", whoever the JMSDF sends will be highly honored as well as hand picked, they will have it all, talent, talent, and more talent, along with winning attitude and "team spirit"......

I will also personally guarantee that whoever flies and trains with the Marine Aviator's at Beuafort, will look back on that as one of their greatest accomplishments, and probably the greatest time of their lives.

It will be very hard work, lots and lots of study, study, study, did I say study, they will know the airplane inside and out, class room time for hours on end, into the simulator till you don't think you can stand another day, for every procedure and emergency ever dreamed of? drilled over and over and over, and finally out the airplane, which at once will be the greatest adventure ever, and at the same time, a complete anticlimax!

but when they crawl out of that cockpit, the first time, and probably every time in training, they will be wringing wet with sweat, and mentally and physically "wrung out", because flying is a hell of a lot of hard work!
 

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I doubt the USMC pilots/flight commanders will greet JMSDF trainee pilots with open arms considering it will cut their precious training time and resources to accommodate them. The USN has more luxury with more ships and space compared to the USMC amphibious carriers but JS Izumo won't get a CAT so training on a USN carrier doesn't match the requirements.
And another thing, the Marines, Pilots, and Commander's will be damn proud to train their Japanese counter parts in the F-35B, and those Japanese Aviators and Maintainers will join an elite military group that operate a 5 gen STOVL fighter aircraft...

Look at the raging time the Brits are having, they are loving their airplanes, yeah, there's a good kind of competition, that draws you in, makes you better, and makes you a TEAM!

but? don't take my word for it?
 

SamuraiBlue

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They will be going to MCAS Beaufort with all the other Marines Sam, they'll be more than happy to share their birds, and their basing/berthing with the JMSDF...

I can assure you they will be treated with the utmost respect and honor, until they "screw up", and then they will be given "SHIT" just like every other aviator!

I suppose I can guess where you are coming from? but the Marine Aviators are the best in the business, the USMC has made flying Harriers look like a "piece of cake"! they are that good

Flying the F-35 Bravo is a "piece of cake", whoever the JMSDF sends will be highly honored as well as hand picked, they will have it all, talent, talent, and more talent, along with winning attitude and "team spirit"......

I will also personally guarantee that whoever flies and trains with the Marine Aviator's at Beuafort, will look back on that as one of their greatest accomplishments, and probably the greatest time of their lives.

It will be very hard work, lots and lots of study, study, study, did I say study, they will know the airplane inside and out, class room time for hours on end, into the simulator till you don't think you can stand another day, for every procedure and emergency ever dreamed of? drilled over and over and over, and finally out the airplane, which at once will be the greatest adventure ever, and at the same time, a complete anticlimax!

but when they crawl out of that cockpit, the first time, and probably every time in training, they will be wringing wet with sweat, and mentally and physically "wrung out", because flying is a hell of a lot of hard work!
The ground training and flight training from a ground airstrip will mainly be done by the JMSDF training since it will be too costly to send all trainees to the US to have them train in a 3~6 month training exercise. Maybe a selected few will attend so they can start setting up their own training program but most trainees will go through a JMSDF training program.
Once they have gone through the JMSDF flight course training then they will probably train with USMC trainer pilots from the JS Izumo.
In the long run, this method will be much better for the JMSDF pilots.
 

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