F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread


Brumby

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what an desperate "argumentation" by putting Chinese stuff into
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

to save the day, LOL!

Brumby it's whataboutery
I don't do distraction unlike others.

The report is silly because it is like reporting the low passing rates of a year one university student taking final graduate exams. This is either a hit piece or from a highly misguided reporter. None of the 23 test aircrafts are of 3F standard. Why is this important? All the IOCs were based on each service at least having sufficient 3F standard aircrafts to declare IOC because before that software upgrade standard they are unlikely to be mission capable.

As to the low Chinese drone mission capable rate (less than 10 %) they are interesting as an insight on Chinese made stuff. They are the equivalent to the US Reapers. Such drones in the US inventory has the highest mission capable rates among all existing aircraft and the one that is brining up the overall average rates. The difference is glaring and why I highlighted it and not because it is some kind of distraction.

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Jura

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I don't do distraction unlike others.

The report is silly because it is like reporting the low passing rates of a year one university student taking final graduate exams. This is either a hit piece or from a highly misguided reporter. None of the 23 test aircrafts are of 3F standard. Why is this important? All the IOCs were based on each service at least having sufficient 3F standard aircrafts to declare IOC because before that software upgrade standard they are unlikely to be mission capable.

As to the low Chinese drone mission capable rate (less than 10 %) they are interesting as an insight on Chinese made stuff. They are the equivalent to the US Reapers. Such drones in the US inventory has the highest mission capable rates among all existing aircraft and the one that is brining up the overall average rates. The difference is glaring and why I highlighted it and not because it is some kind of distraction.

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LOL I'm leaving it to Readers to decide if your Chinese drones are, or are not, "distraction" in
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LOL I'm leaving it to Readers to decide if your Chinese drones are, or are not, "distraction" in
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
No just a reality check for our favorite friend living with JSFDS, (Joint Strike Fighter Derangement Syndrome), your David Axe "blurb" is "krapola" Dude!

If you did a little bit of research, you would know that the early birds all go to test and development, that's common knowledge. There has been extensive and ongoing discussion that early aircraft, would likely go to the "test fleet"......

now knowing that, don't you think that even David Axe could figure out those birds are NOT operationally up to the latest standard???? in fact those early birds are intended to be tested, even broken for the sake of posterity, look at the Su-57, look at the early bird J-20's? all in test my friend, in fact its only just now that the first Su-57 has been produced labeled a "production standard" bird??

the issues with the Chinese drones are anecdotal evidence that all aircraft will always have a certain percentage of "operational aircraft" that are "down" due to maintenance,,, I believe if you care to inform yourself that over 100 C-130's have been grounded due to atypical cracking in the rainbow fitting of the Central Wing Box! those are all aircraft, surprise, surprise, SGT CARTER! that have not had a service life extended central wing box, they all have over 15,000 hrs!

so it is no surprise, nor should it be to anybody on SDF that test aircraft are NOT mission capable!

you do need a therapist my Brother, I'm attempting to give you professional help, but if you don't read this and let it sink in?? (you know, if you are always posting, posting, posting?? (poster of the month)??? you don't have time to inform yourself of the "real world"??

there's a reason God gave you two ears? and only one mouth????

love ya man, but really, why don't you "come to confession" and tell us where this deep seated "LockMart Loathing" originates? its skewing your "world view"??

oh and for your information David Axe, Pierre Spay, and Bill Sweetman?? are branded the "Clown Club" on our sister forum where such "nonsense" is not tolerated at all! Defense Talk, maybe you ought to post this over there for a "critical review" of your work????
 

Jura

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No just a reality check for our favorite friend living with JSFDS, (Joint Strike Fighter Derangement Syndrome), your David Axe "blurb" is "krapola" Dude!

If you did a little bit of research, you would know that the early birds all go to test and development, that's common knowledge. There has been extensive and ongoing discussion that early aircraft, would likely go to the "test fleet"......

now knowing that, don't you think that even David Axe could figure out those birds are NOT operationally up to the latest standard???? in fact those early birds are intended to be tested, even broken for the sake of posterity, look at the Su-57, look at the early bird J-20's? all in test my friend, in fact its only just now that the first Su-57 has been produced labeled a "production standard" bird??

the issues with the Chinese drones are anecdotal evidence that all aircraft will always have a certain percentage of "operational aircraft" that are "down" due to maintenance,,, I believe if you care to inform yourself that over 100 C-130's have been grounded due to atypical cracking in the rainbow fitting of the Central Wing Box! those are all aircraft, surprise, surprise, SGT CARTER! that have not had a service life extended central wing box, they all have over 15,000 hrs!

so it is no surprise, nor should it be to anybody on SDF that test aircraft are NOT mission capable!

you do need a therapist my Brother, I'm attempting to give you professional help, but if you don't read this and let it sink in?? (you know, if you are always posting, posting, posting?? (poster of the month)??? you don't have time to inform yourself of the "real world"??

there's a reason God gave you two ears? and only one mouth????

love ya man, but really, why don't you "come to confession" and tell us where this deep seated "LockMart Loathing" originates? its skewing your "world view"??

oh and for your information David Axe, Pierre Spay, and Bill Sweetman?? are branded the "Clown Club" on our sister forum where such "nonsense" is not tolerated at all! Defense Talk, maybe you ought to post this over there for a "critical review" of your work????
Brother thank you for funny coverage;

I'm as astute as ever, just look how detached I was in the original post Friday at 10:08 PM
is it true
Just 2 Out of 23 U.S. F-35 Test Planes Are Fully Operational
The 23 U.S. military F-35 stealth fighters in the test fleet at Edwards Air Force Base in California achieved a “fully mission capable” rate of just 8.7 percent in June 2019, according to the F-35 program office.
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it's by
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, anyway let me inquire if the chart is legit or not:


please note this is a Yes or No question
 

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now noticed the story
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F-35 flies sortie less than five hours after delivery
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The US 388th Fighter Wing set a speed record for bringing online a newly-delivered aircraft last week, flying a sortie less than five hours after accepting delivery of its 68th F-35 aircraft.

According to the US Air Force, F-35A aircraft tail number 5261 left Lockheed Martin’s Fort Worth production facility a little after 8 a.m. on August the 1st and landed at Hill Air Force Base at 10 a.m, and by 3 p.m. had taken off on its first combat training mission.

“The F-35A program’s production and delivery plan was designed to allow rapid aircraft induction and quick use by the customers,” said Col. Michael Miles, 388th Maintenance Group commander.

“We’ve shown the enterprise it’s possible.”

In theory, it means that F-35 jets could be deployed directly from the factory into combat if a large-scale conflict ever drives that need, Miles said.

When a new F-35A comes off the line at the production facility, it undergoes several contract and government check flights before the US Air Force accepts final delivery.

The 388th and 419th FWs are the Air Force’s first combat-capable F-35 units.
 

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Brother thank you for funny coverage;

I'm as astute as ever, just look how detached I was in the original post Friday at 10:08 PM
, anyway let me inquire if the chart is legit or not:


please note this is a Yes or No question
How about "HELL NO!", POGO is a left wing pacifist organization, at least partially funded by George Soros, they wish to GUT the US military, so no, its an absolute "Krock of Shit", as is David Axe's quoting them for his own little "Gotcha" moment, sadly we are known for the company we keep Jura, and the people we put up as "EXPERT's"

So no, its not legit, its a left leaning "Gotcha Group", but if you wish to make them your heroes??? that's not very "astute" my friend....

not very astute at all, 5th Gens remain expensive, and very complex, that's why the Russians have 10 test articles, and the Chinese appear to have around 2 dozen 5th gens that we can count numbers for??? so less than 2 dozen known tail numbers in operational and test squadrons?
 

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How about "HELL NO!", POGO is a left wing pacifist organization, at least partially funded by George Soros, they wish to GUT the US military, so no, its an absolute "Krock of Shit", as is David Axe's quoting them for his own little "Gotcha" moment, sadly we are known for the company we keep Jura, and the people we put up as "EXPERT's"

So no, its not legit, its a left leaning "Gotcha Group", but if you wish to make them your heroes??? that's not very "astute" my friend....

not very astute at all, 5th Gens remain expensive, and very complex, that's why the Russians have 10 test articles, and the Chinese appear to have around 2 dozen 5th gens that we can count numbers for??? so less than 2 dozen known tail numbers in operational and test squadrons?
OK the Pentagon declined to comment (according to what's inside Friday at 10:08 PM), you've even brought Mr. Soros (LOL!) so I'm looking forward to the next
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OK the Pentagon declined to comment (according to what's inside Friday at 10:08 PM), you've even brought Mr. Soros (LOL!) so I'm looking forward to the next
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POGO is typical of Mr. Soros left wing hate America "gotcha groups", you really should vet your sources much more carefully.. they are certainly not objective...

Further more if you really believe only 2 of 23 test articles were on the line that day??? I really can't help you????
 

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