F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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Must be Su-57, surely not that doggy F-35?? LOL the Gripen is a mere 4Gen Bub, so I don't think its in the running, so you've been in high level consultations with the Government eh??
Jura The idiot
General
Brumby the USN had February of 2019 set as "threshold requirement" for the F-35C IOC, so the Pentagon did the paperwork this week
Jura The idiot
General
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F-35C Wing Commander Focused on First Deployment, Transitioning First Marine Corps Squadron
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"... wing commodore Capt. Max McCoy ... added that the Navy has a transition plan for future squadrons, but since those plans were still subject to change he declined to say which squadrons were next set for transition to the F-35C after VMFA-314."
Thanks Jura.. In other words no decisions have been made yet..yeesh...
Brumby
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What does Australia think of the F-35?
Australia participated in the recent Red Flag and provided some interesting insight in how the F-35s were used in a high end fight.
What is interesting is that the F-35s were used to kick down the door without any EA support. The F-22s then came in to keep the door open while the F-35s went back to collect a mix bag of 4 gen package including the EA-18G Growler. This is primary evidence that we have discussed before that the F-35s do not require EA support going into a high end fight to kick down the door.
Australia participated in the recent Red Flag and provided some interesting insight in how the F-35s were used in a high end fight.
What is interesting is that the F-35s were used to kick down the door without any EA support. The F-22s then came in to keep the door open while the F-35s went back to collect a mix bag of 4 gen package including the EA-18G Growler. This is primary evidence that we have discussed before that the F-35s do not require EA support going into a high end fight to kick down the door.
Long range and stand off weapons or saturation attacks are effective enough to not even require LO unless we're talking very high end capabilities. F-35 can definitely do it all provided this next generation of SEAD ordinance can fit inside its bays. The surprising bit is going in alone to take out enemy aircrafts as well, including stealth/y ones. Not sure how they are confident about this but I doubt they are referring to all the defenses that exist out there. They're not exactly going to say there are certain countries they will potentially struggle with now are they?
Jura The idiot
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"evidence"
sure
Brumby
Major
When they talk about high end, I am assuming it is taking on S-300/S-400 type IADS. In the past,statements of this nature suggest that would be the type of high end threat that they are referring to. That said, we also know from the SEAD/DEAD missions in Kosovo, the allied forces over stated their initial claims of success as the Serbs were very discipline with emission control and in using terrain masking. Saturated attacks from standoff do not work well with the double digit SAMs because they are mobile and not fixed targets. HARMs don't work because discipline emission control plus shoot and scoot do not permit sufficient targeting window and so geolocation capability is important. AFAIK, only the F-35 with the AN/ASQ-239 and the F-22 with the ALR-94 have geolocation capabilities. The F-15Es when they get EPAWWS will also get this capability. As the F-35 are VLOs, they can get very close to the target without being detected and even brief emission is sufficient to pick up the geolocated targets and to hit them before they can move. .