Ethnic Conflict in Northeast India

Biscuits said:

India had it's chance to shore up its stability through the SCO. I guess China is giving India a little reverse signing bonus through the porous Myanmar border, payment for persistent childish behavior in the SCO meetings. But India is the only major responsible one here, for promoting superstition and nationalism instead of honesty and hard work.

Actions have consequences.

America cannot help India censor forever. Sooner or later, the shit will spill out.

If India can't be used against the west, it's better to let them fall into a permanent lost generation through uncontrolled ethnic strife, corruption and crime.

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I don't think its China that's giving India the reverse sign in bonus, Myanmar is destabilized by the west remember. China wants a stable Myanmar for oil pipelines, I don't think China is actually providing arms that eventually flow to India. However, China can easily make life a living hell for India in its northeast.

State police participating in Meitei mobs burning Kuki villages.

Myanmar has been not "stable" for ages. That has mostly to do with their internal systems. Overall, it's a country where China can do a lot with plausible deniability, as it is rather lawless but still China friendly.

China is defintely not full speed pumping weapons into the region, but I'm pretty sure at this point that theres a prevailing "fuck India" attitude among the SCO, so no one is trying to seriously stop weapons from flowing into India either. Hence, at least a bit of weapons start going in.

Myanmar weapons seem to be predominantly reaching the Kuki, while the Hindu Meitei have been armed by the Indian state. So rather than blindly destabilizing, the idea may be to give the Kuki a fair chance at defending themselves.

Biscuits said:

Myanmar has been not "stable" for ages. That has mostly to do with their internal systems. Overall, it's a country where China can do a lot with plausible deniability, as it is rather lawless but still China friendly.

China is defintely not full speed pumping weapons into the region, but I'm pretty sure at this point that theres a prevailing "fuck India" attitude among the SCO, so no one is trying to seriously stop weapons from flowing into India either. Hence, at least a bit of weapons start going in.

Myanmar weapons seem to be predominantly reaching the Kuki, while the Hindu Meitei have been armed by the Indian state. So rather than blindly destabilizing, the idea may be to give the Kuki a fair chance at defending themselves.

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Fueling internal conflicts to keep a country crippled is a western hallmark. If China is indeed doing this then props to them for learning.

Biscuits said:

Myanmar has been not "stable" for ages. That has mostly to do with their internal systems. Overall, it's a country where China can do a lot with plausible deniability, as it is rather lawless but still China friendly.

China is defintely not full speed pumping weapons into the region, but I'm pretty sure at this point that theres a prevailing "fuck India" attitude among the SCO, so no one is trying to seriously stop weapons from flowing into India either. Hence, at least a bit of weapons start going in.

Myanmar weapons seem to be predominantly reaching the Kuki, while the Hindu Meitei have been armed by the Indian state. So rather than blindly destabilizing, the idea may be to give the Kuki a fair chance at defending themselves.

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I still don't think China is sending any arms to any groups in India either directly or indirectly. I've posted many videos which show the type of weapons each side is using. Some of the news articles I quoted also specified which type of weapons were used. Can some more gun knowledgeable take a look and do a summary? Maybe this can help clarify the source of the weapons.

coolgod said:

I still don't think China is sending any arms to any groups in India either directly or indirectly. I've posted many videos which show the type of weapons each side is using. Some of the news articles I quoted also specified which type of weapons were used. Can some more gun knowledgeable take a look and do a summary? Maybe this can help clarify the source of the weapons.

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can you post a few pictures and papers?

FairAndUnbiased said:

can you post a few pictures and papers?

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I'll try to organize them if I get a chance.

More reports of gangrape and mob killings in Manipur coming out.


Another case

Just days before a Zero FIR was filed in connection to

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, in which two Manipuri women were stripped and paraded in the state’s Thoubal district, another Zero FIR was filed at the same police station —

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of two Kuki-Zomi women. In this case also, it took the authorities more than a month to transfer the complaint to the relevant police station in Imphal East.

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Indian army (Spear corp) sexually harassing young girls in Manipur caught on camera.

This is the same corp that was publicly blaming women for the continuing violence in Manipur recently.

India Urged to End Arms Exports to War-Torn Myanmar​

BANGKOK —
A Myanmar pressure group is urging India to stop selling arms to their war-torn country's military and asking its Western allies to join the call, singling out Sweden and the United States.

The pressure group, Justice for Myanmar, says its research has found weapons parts made in India but of Swedish design being shipped to Myanmar, even after a 2021 military coup that toppled the country's elected government.

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United Nations experts have accused Myanmar's military of crimes against humanity and war crimes as it battles a stubborn armed resistance, killing thousands of civilians and displacing over 1.5 million people across the country.

While the U.S., European Union and others have imposed arms embargos on Myanmar, India, which shares a 1,600-kilometer border with the country, remains one of the military regime's few remaining suppliers.

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"Indian exports of arms and dual use goods and technologies are significant for the Myanmar military and enables it to continue to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity," Justice for Myanmar spokeswoman Yadanar Maung told VOA.

She said India's latest shipments make it "further complicit" and urged its Quad allies to "step up and start using their leverage to stop India's abhorrent support for the junta."

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Looks like US wants some help from India on Myanmar

coolgod said:

I'll try to organize them if I get a chance.

More reports of gangrape and mob killings in Manipur coming out.

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Indian army (Spear corp) sexually harassing young girls in Manipur caught on camera.

This is the same corp that was publicly blaming women for the continuing violence in Manipur recently.

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India Urged to End Arms Exports to War-Torn Myanmar​

Looks like US wants some help from India on Myanmar

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Plz change post due to NSFW possibility, also I asked about pictures of equipment if possible

FairAndUnbiased said:

Plz change post due to NSFW possibility, also I asked about pictures of equipment if possible

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Sorry about that, I'll remember to mark more NSFW stuff.

Twitter is deleting Manipur tweets, especially videos very quick now. Luckily the people on weibo have fast hands.



This video showing Kuki women fighting Indian army/police is worth a watch.

I've seen quite a lot of India-originated race vs race, religion vs religion-types of posts by Jai Hinds on Twitter, like the quoted example in this Tweet.


Therefore, I'm more inclined to believe that Manipur isn't really a one-off, but one amongst the many, many other broadly similar instances that have happened all across India. The only difference? Manipur became too large to be swept under the rug by Delhi, even with internet access being cut-off in the region.

ACuriousPLAFan said:

I've seen quite a lot of India-originated race vs race, religion vs religion-types of posts by Jai Hinds on Twitter, like the quoted example in this Tweet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684001381903142913

Therefore, I'm more inclined to believe that Manipur isn't really a one-off, but one amongst the many, many other broadly similar instances that have happened all across India. The only difference? Manipur became too large to be swept under the rug by Delhi, even with internet access being cut-off in the region.

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India, much like other other post-colonial countries, is a political concept made up of many disparate tribes placed together under a foreign colonial regime. Even the Mughal Empire only was a northern Hindustani empire, they never ruled the Dravidian areas which were under the Maratha Empire and the Kingdom of Mysore. All 3 empires were orthodox Indian empires, and they were separated among several distinct ethnic groups.